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Katie: Good day and welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and this episode is all about minerals and particularly a number of very particular minerals, together with silica, which I’ve not gotten to speak about on this podcast but, however which I’ve been experimenting with and seeing actually good outcomes with to this point. And I’m right here with Rick Wagner, who’s the founder and CEO of Eidon Ionic Minerals, which is a San Diego primarily based firm that manufactures and distributes ionic liquid mineral dietary supplements. He’s an authorized nutritionist and holds a grasp’s diploma from San Diego State College. And he loves, as you’ll inform from this episode, to coach concerning the significance of minerals and wholesome life-style and food plan and the essential position that components play in sustaining a wholesome thoughts and physique.
And we get to go deep on a number of issues on this podcast, together with what we’re made from and the way minerals come into play, how we’re a mix of minerals and water, amongst different issues. We speak concerning the germ concept of illness and the elements of it which might be an insufficient clarification, and the issues that Western medication misses by means of simply trying on the stage of organ methods or germs and never trying on the mobile stage and mineral steadiness. We discuss the advantages of issues like including sea salt to the soil and gardening, the rationale to not take an excessive amount of calcium and the way an excessive amount of will be poisonous.
We speak concerning the minerals we’d like which might be complementary to issues like calcium and particularly silica, which I discussed. I’ve been taking and noticing actually good outcomes, not only for my hair and my pores and skin and my nails, however he additionally explains how that is a part of the collagen matrix of our bones and truly retains bones wholesome over the long run, much more so doubtlessly than calcium, as a result of bone is a collagen matrix as effectively. And so typically we don’t want extra calcium, we’d like extra collagen matrix, which requires minerals and silica. He talks about how one can complement with minerals in order that they’re the best within the physique, and we get into some specifics on numerous minerals as effectively. He’s positively a wealth of data with a few years of life expertise and I’m excited to share this interview with you. So let’s be part of Rick. Rick, welcome and thanks a lot for being right here.
Rick: Thanks.
Katie: Effectively, I’m extraordinarily excited to be taught from you as we speak. I first got here throughout you guys really at a convention and I spent numerous time speaking to your workforce about numerous minerals. And despite the fact that I’ve been within the well being world for about 16 years now, I discovered some new issues that day and I’m actually excited to get to share a few of these within the type of dialog as we speak. And we’re going to get to go deep on just a few matters, together with as a preview a mineral referred to as silica, which I’ve been utilizing for the previous few months and actually having fun with. However to start out broad, I do know you could have numerous background data that I feel goes to be useful to construct this dialog on. So let’s speak in a broad sense about what we’re made from after which perhaps how minerals come into play there.
Rick: That’s the most elemental query to ask. And to start out with, should you go searching you, and I inform this to folks on a regular basis, the place do you suppose you got here from? You didn’t come from the star. Effectively, really you didn’t come from the celebrities a very long time in the past, however every part you see, really feel and contact, together with you emanated from the planet Earth. We’re a mix of minerals and water as a starting. Now there are different parts of the physique together with sugars and fat and amino acids, however all of them additionally originated from planet Earth. I like to make use of the phrase we’re youngsters of the celebrities. And there’s a superb e-book out about that discussing this particular person’s concept about the place we got here from. And should you have a look at what’s there within the universe, it’s different stars, planets after which us as a planet. We got here from the planet and that’s grime and water. And so the, the importance of them is is past. And, and what we’re seeing is the Western medication as we speak just isn’t addressing it in any cohesive or important style. And so now we have to depend on our personal instinct and personal data and make ourselves conscious and educated of what we’re made up of and how one can maintain us wholesome. A correct steadiness of minerals will maintain you robust and wholesome till you aren’t, after which you’ll go. And I’ve discovered this all through my life. I’ve had experiences with the minerals to the purpose the place I completely acknowledge that that is it.
Katie: And I’ve a notice from researching for this episode and within the dialogue earlier than we bought to file concerning the germ concept of illness and the way this dovetails into the dialog. So for background, are you able to additionally clarify what you imply by The Germ Idea of Illness and that not being an ample clarification?
Rick: It’s fascinating. If you happen to look again in historical past, there have been quite a few theories as to what causes illness. And I’m going to solely take two steps again from the place we started. However the, the primary one was spontaneous. What was it referred to as? Anyway, it was outlined as only a spontaneous response of the physique to one thing. And it arose out of, I feel, yellow fever and the institution of yellow fever the place they couldn’t work out what folks had been getting sick from. They had been dwelling although close to swamps and so forth, and it was mosquitoes that had been biting them and that created this concept.
Then after that it was Pasteur. Louis Pasteur is the one which developed the Germ Idea of Illness. And he was finding out how various things like milk and different beer and issues that might go unhealthy. And he recognized micro organism as the issue. That led into then our present state of the germ concept of illness, that every part is both if it isn’t attributable to a micro organism or a virus, then it’s idiopathic and we don’t know what it’s. And idiopathic the phrase to me means I’m an fool and I don’t actually know what I’m doing. However give it some thought. We’re made up of micro organism, viruses and fungi within the intestine.
To suppose that for some motive we’re going to be performed in by one other micro organism doesn’t make any sense. After which while you check out they maintain developing with new illnesses. They even name most cancers being attributable to a virus. Most of those viruses are very healthful for us. We have to maintain them in steadiness. However going again to the germ concept, if Western medication can’t kill it, then they’ll’t do something with it. And the problem is, will we have to be killing this stuff that we usually stay with? They’re in every single place. How can we put a masks on and suppose that we’re going to be protected from one thing which may be unhealthy for us or do us in, when in actual fact the problem is sustaining optimum steadiness throughout the cell of all of the minerals in order that the cells can work accurately as they’ve developed to do to defend us.
And so the Germ Idea of Illness is sort of flawed, definitely should you have a look at the usage of and actually it actually began with the event of penicillin. And should you have a look at the use although, of antibiotics, they are often very useful, significantly when you could have an damage and also you’ve bought tissue, the pores and skin has been reduce and the tissue is uncovered to every part round you. That’s fascinating although, as a result of when you have all the correct minerals, you may heal that wound pretty rapidly and the immune system will come into play and cope with something that you simply occur to be uncovered to that wasn’t acknowledged throughout World Battle I. And it was solely in World Battle II, after penicillin was developed, that we had been capable of cope with numerous that. However what occurs then is the penicillin doesn’t concentrate on the unhealthy bug. It focuses on the entire bugs in your intestine. And as soon as that occurs, you could have a really compromised intestine.
What we’re doing actually is destroying the physique’s personal means to have the ability to cope with itself and shield itself with what we’re giving ourselves in the best way of medicine. It’s there to kill one thing, nevertheless it kills different stuff as effectively. So the Germ Idea of Illness is certainly flawed. And the opposite factor to consider is that if we had been to take a look at how Western medication offers with issues, they solely go all the way down to the organ stage. They don’t have a look at the cells. Effectively, we’re made up of billions of cells and people cells should perform and so they solely perform in the event that they’ve bought an ample provide of minerals.
So a malfunction of a cell then will and if that often attributable to a scarcity of minerals, particular minerals, and as soon as that cell begins to go after which one other cell begins to go, ultimately it impacts the entire organ and then you definitely’ve bought an organ situation. However in actuality so the Western medication appears on the organ and so they say oh, your liver has failed or your kidneys have failed, or no matter. However the place did that begin? It simply began the organ it began on the cells and it began as a result of the cells couldn’t work proper. In order that’s the mineral steadiness concept of illness, I suppose you’d name it. That’s my concept. All of our organs are made from cells and if these cells aren’t working, the organ just isn’t working. And nearly invariably it’s due to the shortage of minerals. I’m undecided. Did that reply the query?
Katie: It did. And I’m excited to go deeper on this as a result of I’m imagining there are numerous components at play right here. All the pieces from we heard concerning the depleted nutrient ranges within the soil previously a number of generations attributable to over farming and the entire practices that associate with that. However I feel you highlighted one thing actually essential. And I feel I typically discuss food plan on the whole and loads within the well being and wellness worlds. And I discuss attempting to shift our mindset away from a restrictive mindset in terms of meals and meals being unhealthy and avoiding them as a result of they’re unhealthy, or limiting energy and shifting extra towards a spotlight of how will we eat essentially the most vitamins potential, essentially the most nutrient density from our meals sources, which I feel is psychologically extra useful as a result of then we’re centered on a constructive metric versus a damaging one, to not point out all the opposite issues that associate with that. And it looks as if it is a correlative for that. In terms of pondering of the immune system and in supporting physique well being on the whole, reasonably than pondering of there’s these germs on the market which might be unhealthy and now we have to kill them, pondering of extra, how will we help the physique in the best method at a mobile stage in order that our immune system is able to dealing with no matter it’s going to come across and in order that we’re supporting all of these organ methods, but in addition our cells individually. So the physique is able to dealing with no matter we throw at it. Am I understanding it accurately?
Rick: You might be. What’s fascinating going to the meals system, that and our water system are the 2 supply mechanisms for minerals. Effectively, now we have simply systematically, by refining our meals, through the use of monocropping, which is rising the identical crops on the identical soil yr after yr after yr, including solely NPK, which is nitrogen, potassium and phosphorus, which is able to maintain the plant standing and searching like that plant, nevertheless it’s not delivering all of the minerals. And right here’s why.
A plant, and every plant is completely different will draw a sure mixture of mineral components from the soil to thrive. And that mixture, if it’s acceptable, it’ll permit that plant to have the ability to cope with something that may are likely to go in and assault it, any virus, bug or fungi. And after about seven years of rising the identical crop on the identical soil with out doing any replenishment, that crop will be unable to develop. The truth is, that is without doubt one of the causes I learn in some unspecified time in the future that basically stimulated the expansion of not the human inhabitants, as a result of we had been inhabited by numerous Indian tribes method earlier than we got here in. However the development west of the white man was promoted as a result of the farmer would exit and get a chunk of land, they’d develop crops on it, however after about six, seven, eight years, they couldn’t develop them anymore. So they’d simply pack up and transfer extra west the place it wasn’t being farmed. And that’s simply continued to this present day, to the purpose now the place you could have company farms. They’re solely specializing in getting the crop up and into the shop, not the standard of the crop.
I feel that even when it’s natural, the true phrase is biodynamic. That’s how a biodynamic farmer is his soil content material and the soil mineral content material as effectively. How can he maintain that robust? And that’s performed by crop rotation, letting it lay fallow for a yr or two. However even that doesn’t do it. One of the best ways to do it’s so as to add sea salt again to the soil as a result of that sea salt accommodates each aspect that we all know of on the planet. So anyway, what’s occurred as we speak is should you go, even while you exit and you purchase natural, you don’t know whether or not or not you’ve bought a full complement of what that plant usually would ship to you. And so it’s essential to try this as a result of at the very least you’re not giving your physique toxins. As a result of what occurs is, with the farmer that doesn’t observe this stuff, their crops will change into very weak to the issues that recycle us, the fungi, the micro organism, the viruses. And so what do they do to cope with that? They kill them. They kill all of it. However within the course of, they’re killing us as effectively. They do this by spraying roundup on every part or all these different pesticides, herbicides and fungicides. These small microorganisms are there to recycle unhealthy dwelling matter and that features us.
And so while you store as we speak you wish to store on the perimeter however you continue to want to grasp that you could be or will not be getting the issues that usually, historically that plant would ship. However consuming that method is de facto essential as a result of should you eat another method you’re getting refined meals. I inform folks don’t purchase something in a bag, a can, a jar. I perform a little bit, however not meals. Possibly condiments. I’ll do this. What we’ve performed is actually create an setting the place we’re getting meals however it isn’t delivering the first useful vitamins that we’d like, that are the minerals.
Okay, so then you definitely go to water. What have we performed to our water? Effectively, water has at all times been, I imply it’s a supply of life. However previously we’ve had a state of affairs the place we weren’t actually paying numerous consideration to water and we might drink it if in actual fact it had change into polluted in some style after which it might make us sick and create actually unhealthy epidemics of every kind of issues. And it was as a result of the water was so unhealthy. So then what we found out is we might put chlorine in it and that may maintain all of the bugs killed once more killing the bugs reasonably than enhancing them.
And now we’re placing fluoride within the water as a result of they are saying oh, that’s going to assist our tooth. Effectively, fluoride previously has been used as a rat poison and so why wouldn’t it be essential for our tooth? All of the research present it helps about it does appear to assist children which have, are vulnerable to cavities from the age of 5 to 12. After that no assist in any respect.
So anyway, although the water now we have poisons in our water, extreme chloride will be toxic. The truth is, going again to minerals, excesses of any of the minerals can change into poisonous. The advice of taking 1000 milligrams of calcium a day is poisonous, particularly with out silica. And what I wish to ask or inform folks to consider is what do you suppose a cow eats should you’re consuming meat? What’s that cow eat meat or a horse or a goat. They eat grass. That’s all they eat. Effectively there’s not numerous calcium in grass. They definitely don’t drink any calcium from their mother after they’re weaned, we’re the one mammal on the planet that does that. And so what’s conserving them wholesome? Effectively, it seems then we’ll go get into the silica factor in a minute. However I consider it’s the truth that the grass is rising on areas the place they’re not doing mono-cropping despite the fact that it appears prefer it. Many of the grass is rising then dying and placing the minerals again into the soil. After which they’re beginning to develop once more, however they’re not consuming all of those different issues that theoretically are tremendous wholesome for us. However within the meals, what we’ve performed is actually as we speak we’ve depleted the meals and water have two main sources, the one sources, really, of our minerals, until we complement.
Katie: I positively wish to go deeper on that. I’m glad you talked about fluoride as effectively, as a result of fortunately there’s not fluoride within the water the place I stay. However I do have a complete home filter anyway to get out the surplus chloride and every part else that they add. However I’ve researched oral well being fairly a bit and from what I discovered, sure, fluoride will be useful in that slim window you talked about, however sometimes simply topically. So I at all times use the analogy that consuming it’s considerably just like should you had been going to eat bandaids since you had a reduce in your pores and skin. Technically a bandaid would possibly assist, however not should you’re going to eat it. So the supply mechanism, I feel, is a little bit misguided there. However I wish to spotlight a tip. So that you talked about including salt to the soil, and I’ve been gardening for years, however that’s a brand new tip to me. I do make my very own compost, so it has numerous natural matter and hopefully minerals from the composting. However can we actually simply sprinkle salt into our backyard beds or is there a particular methodology for that?
Rick: Sure, I’ve orange bushes at my dwelling, and I met a gentleman a few years in the past. He represented an organization that was harvesting sea salt from the Sea of Cortez in Mexico. And we met and we talked, and I used to be beginning the mineral firm at that time. He was promoting his salt to farmers to sprinkle again on the soil, as a result of what’s occurred is we’ll develop a plant after which we’ll reduce it and take away it from that space. And that’s the place the depletion of the minerals comes from. It doesn’t get to die and return into the soil. So it’s important to add it again in. And it’s essentially the most advanced type of simply dissolvable mineral components that may get again be put again into the soil. And he offered this firm, however whomever purchased it’s nonetheless doing this. And he taught me how one can put them round my orange bushes, and so they’re wholesome.
So everybody’s anxious concerning the Asian psyllid, which is a bug. That is loopy. Okay, so the entire East Coast and West Coast is all anxious that this bug from Asia goes to return over and infest the bushes, the orange bushes particularly. However the bug doesn’t harm the tree. What they are saying the bug does is it would by some means chew the tree, however then put this micro organism into the tree, which then is what kills the tree. Effectively, in actuality, the tree has simply change into depleted of potential important components and so they haven’t added them again in, significantly zinc. And zinc is big for our immune system, and it’s large for bushes, however they’re after the bug. They wish to kill the bug, however but the bug isn’t actually even what kills the tree, however what they’re saying is that micro organism doesn’t kill the tree both. It’s simply the rising high quality of the farmers efforts on conserving a great mineral steadiness within the soil the place these bushes are.
So anyway, that’s the germ concept once more. Okay, so what now we have to do is spray our bushes to kill the bug. Theoretical. Effectively, what I do is the place I stay, we’re required to spray. So what I do is I simply have them spray with seawater. Mainly, you’re taking 400 gallons of water, and you place about 5 kilos of sea salt into it, combine it up, and spray it on the tree. The bushes adore it. Anyway, I’m undecided the place we had been going with that one, however refresh me.
Katie: No, that’s fascinating. I’m going to strive that in my backyard. And I’ve additionally heard of including epsom salt for the magnesium to some crops, and that being useful as effectively. But it surely appears like crops have mineral wants as effectively, and we’ve kind of been ignoring these, which can also be symptomatic of this taking place to people as effectively. We’ve kind of been ignoring our mineral wants. You additionally talked about one thing that I feel is de facto useful and essential to speak about, which is that this overconsumption of calcium. As a result of I’ve researched this some, and positively folks have in all probability seen the advice to get sufficient calcium and take sufficient calcium. And I’ve talked some about how particularly with out different minerals current, that may be really actually counterproductive and or dangerous for people. However are you able to stroll us by means of why an excessive amount of calcium could be a drawback and perhaps what different minerals we’d like to pay attention to in that equation?
Rick: Yeah, calcium is an important mineral aspect, clearly. However when the Nationwide Academy of Sciences determined to do all their analysis on what, how a lot and of what mineral is important for people, this specific research on calcium was funded by the dairy business, and that what they had been promoting was calcium and milk. Opposite to all pure features of how mammals work, they don’t take additional calcium in after they’re weaned.
So what the physique will do, although, understanding that it’s important as a result of not I imply, not solely does it assist as a significant part of bone, which, by the best way, is the warehouse for calcium, it is also essential for nerve transmission, power manufacturing, blood clotting. There are a variety of features of calcium, however the query is, how a lot do you want and how are you going to handle it? Effectively, I’m an ideal instance. I drank milk till I used to be about 50, had cereal day by day or no matter. I nonetheless eat cheese at times. All the pieces is yogurt, however every part is effectively monitored by me as to what I soak up. However after I was about 50 or 45, I started to expertise ache in my neck, and it was arthritis. So at about 50, I might transfer my head or 45 levels, and that was it. After which earlier than then, I needed to transfer my complete shoulder like this to show and see what was behind me. It was actually robust backing out of a parking zone as a result of they didn’t have backup cameras then. Anyway, and that was after I was launched to this silica complement. Take into account, silica is the second most prevalent aspect on the Earth’s crust after oxygen, and but it isn’t actually even acknowledged as we speak by the Nationwide Academy of Sciences. I’ve requested them to do analysis on it and so they simply ignore me. Sulfur is one other one, and so they ignore that one as effectively.
So anyway, I began taking the Silica. It was a Silica Gel made in Germany to see if it regrow my hair, as a result of I’d misplaced all my hair and I took it for about six weeks. After which I had scheduled a visit again east, and on the label it mentioned, Refrigerate After opening. And this was a gel. And also you needed to combine it with stuff. Effectively, you combine ours with stuff. However anyway, I didn’t take it with me. I went for a ten day journey. On the finish of ten days, all of this ache got here again in my neck. Now, granted, I had gone to my physician, Kaiser Permanente, and had an x-ray performed. This was fortuitous. But it surely was proper earlier than I began taking these items. They usually mentioned, oh, yeah, you could have arthritis. And I mentioned, effectively, what do you do about physician? They usually simply checked out me and so they mentioned, there’s no remedy for arthritis. You simply should take aspirin the remainder of your life. And if it actually will get unhealthy, we are able to go in with a scalpel and we’ll scrape the calcium off the vertebrae as a result of that’s the place it’s. It’s in your vertebrae. Seems one factor they did say is we are able to’t see the calcium both. However in actual fact, if you know the way a vertebrae appears, it’s spherical. That half goes across the backbone, after which it has a little bit factor on the finish. Effectively, I assumed that it could be these little issues on the finish rubbing collectively, however no, it was it was being constructed up on the within of the vertebrae, so that you couldn’t even see it.
As a facet notice, I had a good friend that wouldn’t hearken to me, wouldn’t take my Silica, and he bought he bought the identical factor in his again and he allow them to go in and reduce it. And he walks round with a walker now, so manually eradicating these items doesn’t work. So anyway, all this ache got here again after about ten days of not taking it, and I assumed to myself, effectively, that is unusual. Why is that? So I bought proper again on it. Lengthy story quick, 9 months later, I didn’t have arthritis anymore. I used to be about 50 on the time, and I’ve by no means had a ache in my neck or my again or any of my joints since.
So I then bought very, very curious as to what was occurring. I purchased a e-book at the moment on minerals and nutritional vitamins to see what they mentioned about Silica. It wasn’t even talked about within the e-book. I had a good friend that was doing a little analysis. Truly, I had a chemist good friend, and he’s nonetheless my chemist, and he did some analysis on it and located that there had been some excellent analysis performed on the College of Public Well being at UCLA by Dr. Edith Carlyle. This was within the mid 70s. She actually confirmed that by proscribing silica from the food plan of chickens and rabbits and different animals, their skeletal construction would change into compromised, and their pores and skin and their feathers and their fur, every part would change into very compromised simply by proscribing the silica content material. Effectively, they theorized, and in reality, so far as I’m involved, this must be simply proof. Silica is the important aspect. It builds collagen. Effectively, collagen is what makes up. It holds all of our cells collectively in the correct place. So it’s an absolute necessity that now we have collagen in our our bodies. It’s our cartilage, it’s our ligaments, our tendons, it’s all of our mucus. And so the restriction of the Silica aspect will create the lack of the physique to take care of correct collagen. That’s the place every part actually type of falls into place.
However Western medication isn’t that in any respect. They’re simply trying on the calcium. Effectively, it seems that silica does one other factor. It manages calcium. As a result of should you take additional calcium with out the silica, your physique says, oh, I must maintain these items. I don’t wish to eliminate it, however I can’t get it into the bones the place it’s usually saved, so I’m going to only retailer it wherever I can. That’s osteoarthritis. And in reality, it’s additionally osteoporosis. Osteoporosis isn’t the shortage of calcium and bone. It’s the shortage of a collagen matrix. Bone is especially collagen. It’s the marrow. And the marrow provides bone its flexibility, in order that in case you are struck otherwise you fall and also you hit one thing, it doesn’t simply snap. If it’s simply calcium, it would snap and break. If it’s absolutely mineralized with silica and has all of the collagen matrix it wants, it’ll bend kind of like bamboo.
However consider while you had been a toddler and also you’re at college and also you’re using on the chalkboard and also you push too arduous on the chalk, it might break. Effectively, that’s calcium carbonate. That’s what really most calcium complement is. That simply reveals you that should you push too arduous on a calcium that’s not additionally included with a collagen, it would break, it would snap. And that’s what occurs in osteoporosis. It’s a person made illness, and it’s due to extreme consumption of calcium and no addressing the idea of silica.
Katie: That’s so fascinating and also you clarify that so effectively. I’m guessing we in all probability don’t have as many meals primarily based sources of silica as we used to and we simply aren’t getting as a lot as we used to. However I’ll say I’ve been taking silica for concerning the final six months now, in all probability after assembly you guys at a convention. And I’ve additionally began giving it to my children as a result of they’re all athletes and doing fairly explosive intensive actions and so from a joint protecting perspective. However I’ve additionally seen simply anecdotally that my hair and my nails are rising like loopy ever since I began getting sufficient silica. However what are a few of the meals primarily based sources of silica? And are folks simply not getting as a lot as we used to? Or is it that we’re getting an excessive amount of calcium? Or is it each?
Rick: It’s each. And as all of us perceive, bread has at all times been what we’d name the workers of life. And earlier than the appearance of a mix, which is the machine that harvests grain, it might be harvested by hand. Now what we didn’t do was decide off the skin husks of the grain. We might thresh the grain to get them off of the workers or the shaft of the wheat. However we’d not sit round and decide off the pores and skin. That’s the place all of the silica is. So what we’d then do is we’d take that grain that had been threshed, we’d take it to the grinder who had a water mill or no matter and he had two massive stones, they had been granite, which is primarily silica. They throw the grain in a single finish, out come the opposite as flour. And that flour was complete and it contained a full complement of the weather that that grain pulled out of the grime, which really is what all grazing animals stay on anyway.
So with the appearance of the mix, these outdoors husks are at all times eliminated. So the one ones that basically get it are the animals that we’re feeding the grain remnants to. What we additionally do there may be take away the skin portion of the grain, which is the model. In order that’s the opposite part of minerals which might be so essential. And all we eat, I might say 90% of the US inhabitants eats white flour. White flour is totally devoid of any minerals and it’s carbohydrates solely. It’s transformed to sugar as quick as white sugar is within the physique. And if the physique can’t burn it, it converts it to fats. This can be a pure course of. That is the rationale now we have such weight problems as we speak and why folks eat neat, as a result of they right here’s one other concept. Folks eat much more meals than they need to as a result of a lot of the meals is nutrient poor. And the physique is saying I would like extra vitamins and it’s not going to get them as a result of it’s not there and but. However what they’re including is carbohydrates which the physique converts to sugar immediately, and the to fats if it isn’t burned. That’s actually large in my estimation. However that’s the main supply is the grain of silica.
Up to now, I’ve heard that potato skins even have numerous silica. It’s the skin husks of no matter or skins or no matter it’s. We additionally use horsetail, which is a plant which could be very inflexible, stiff plant. You grind it up and also you swallow it. After which the opposite one is bamboo. Consider bamboo. Bamboo is wealthy in silica. The pandas eat it on a regular basis. However when you may’t break it, it bends and bends and bends after which it’ll kind of crack, perhaps, however that’s a really wealthy supply. Now, right here’s the issue. After we eat one thing, the physique has to atomize any minerals which might be contained in that meals or water. In a water base, it’s just about already atomized. Seawater. All the minerals in seawater are at their atomic measurement. If you eat let’s say you eat grain, all proper? However this grain is complete. It’s bought the skin husks and every part in it. It’s a loaf of bread. The physique will begin to break that bread down within the abdomen. Your abdomen is the one a part of your physique that has an acid base. And no matter we’re breaking down in the best way of minerals must be performed in an acid base. It won’t be performed in an alkaline state.
So that you’ve bought about an hour, hour and a half to have the ability to atomize no matter you eat in the best way of minerals in order that they’ll then be transported into the bloodstream after which into the cells to be used. Effectively, after about an hour, hour and a half, the abdomen has created what they name a chime, which is simply actually mushy liquid and or Liquid meals that then goes all the way down to the small gut. Now, there are different enzymes that may then start to interrupt out and break down proteins into amino acids, carbohydrates into sugars and fat into triglycerides and so forth. And so that every one happens within the small and enormous gut. There’s no extra breakdown of the minerals at that time. So that you’ve bought to have the ability to get them within the abdomen. The abdomen has to have the ability to do it. A lot of what we soak up the best way of solids just isn’t ever even absorbed in a mineral state.
However the perfect meals, I might say, effectively, the issue is you may’t get them anymore. You may’t get the silica anymore within the meals. It’s all been refined out. And in reality, I talked to at one of many Anaheim reveals, I talked to a few the businesses there that had been promoting natural grains and I requested them in the event that they ever bought the grains complete with the husks on. They mentioned no, we are able to’t get them anymore, even organically grown. So it’s a component that we have to be supplementing with in some type, and it must be supplemented with not as a strong, however as a liquid in order that we don’t have to fret about, okay, should you take 500 milligrams of this capsule right here, how a lot do we actually get into our system? And so it’s very similar to consuming seawater, nevertheless it’s extra centered.
Katie: And I wish to go deep on the easiest way to take minerals in a minute. However earlier than we do, we’ve additionally talked about salt a little bit bit, and also you talked about the distinction between desk salt and sea salt some, however from different company I’ve had on this podcast, it looks as if numerous us are literally not even getting sufficient fundamental salt in our diets or in our vitamin at this level. Are you able to communicate a little bit bit to salt and sodium and the way a lot we really want and why we’d wish to keep away from desk salt, which to my understanding, is, such as you mentioned, devoid of minerals, apart from perhaps they add iodine in generally, however not all the opposite minerals we’d encounter in sea salt.
Rick: Sure, and this is essential. It’s as important as refined sugar. Desk salt is sea salt, utterly refined apart from sodium and chloride. And people are the salty elements of the salt, anyway. Sodium and chloride are important components for the physique. With out chloride, you may’t digest meals with out sodium and or with out the mix of them, you may’t preserve a correct PH steadiness of no, that’s incorrect. It’s important to have all of the minerals to take care of a correct PH steadiness all through the physique. However sodium and chloride are the essential components for that. After which there’s others which have they’ve both a PH of higher than seven or a PH of lower than seven. Lower than seven is acidic. That will be one thing that might be bonded to chloride. After which if it’s alkaline, it’s one thing that’s going to be bonded to sodium. I learn loads about how sodium is unhealthy for you. None of those mineral components are unhealthy for you. They’re all important, however you could know the correct solution to get them. In case you are consuming sodium and chloride, mainly all you’re giving your physique is 2 components, not the others. Now, granted, they’re two important components within the physique, however should you get them with out all the opposite hint components, you’re massively poor then in what you could should have your cells perform accurately.
So sea salt, then again and needless to say sea salt has been utilized by man ever since we started to stroll on the planet. Up till perhaps 100 years in the past, it was sea salt, and Rome was based on sea salt. All of our meals preservation was performed utilizing sea salt, up till perhaps 100 years in the past. And so it’s been very not too long ago that we’ve utterly devoided our spicing with the entire different mineral components that we wanted. And it’s simply the sodium and chloride that we’re getting in. Most individuals do this.
The truth is, I skilled that as effectively. I went to a Membership Med gosh early on, perhaps in my forty’s, and the primary day bought up and I went and had breakfast and so they had a bowl the French are nonetheless fairly sensible anyway, that they had a bowl of salt and you’re taking a pinch along with your fingers and sprinkle it on. Effectively, the salt was crystalline. And I appeared and I used to be used to desk salt. And I appeared down and mentioned, oh, I can’t do this, that’ll be too salty. So I didn’t put any salt on my eggs or in my meals. And that day I actually, actually did numerous work. I used to be in a swim competitors and we did paddling and sure I didn’t surf that day, however numerous water sports activities and numerous land sports activities that night time. And I perspired loads. It was in Mexico and it was tropical. That night time I started to really feel type of nauseous. And I informed my spouse, I mentioned, you’ll should go to dinner by your self. I really feel you actually feeling actually unhealthy. So I simply crawled into mattress and she or he mentioned okay. And I awoke that night time, she was nonetheless at dinner. I used to be flat on the ground, some spot between the mattress and the toilet. And I actually handed out. And I awoke and I mentioned, why did this occur? What’s occurring? After which I assumed I had learn an article within the Nationwide Geographic a number of months earlier than about how essential salt is. And they’d give miners and farmers salt tablets and that was simply fundamental salt. Once they would perspire an excessive amount of, they’d take a pill of not desk, sea salt and it was all of the electrolytes and every part else. And mainly I had burned out all my electrolytes. So when my spouse got here again, I requested her to return to the restaurant and get some sea salt. I simply mentioned salt as a result of I knew that salt was not desk salt and salt and bread and water. And she or he got here again and that’s all I ate for the subsequent half-hour. That morning, the subsequent morning I used to be utterly recovered. That’s all I did, salt water. And I don’t know if the bread was actually that good, nevertheless it was French bread and that was it. That’s how important salt is and the way essential it’s to get from the oceans.
Now there are some sources which might be higher than others, and I consider that ocean water is by far the optimum mix of all of the minerals. So should you get water from a land-based supply, you could query it. I might say salt from the Himalayan sea salt I might say is superb. There’s one other salt that we’ve found that I feel is magical. It’s Peruvian pink salt. This salt water bubbles up from the bottom within the Andes. At 11,000ft in elevation. So the query we have to ask is how is sea salt getting from the ocean up 11,000ft within the air to return out and bubble out? And I’ve performed analyses on it and it’s very, very similar to ocean water. And so we do promote it. It’s such a tremendous factor and we’re in all probability going to include it into a few of our Maltese and our blends would possibly even make only a straight complement of the ocean salt. Getting it from different areas might or will not be an issue. The Lifeless Sea or Nice Salt Lake or a few of these different inland sea areas the place man has polluted them is problematic. However the oceans can be considerably polluted, as we all know, as a result of we dump every part into them. So if we’re going to eat common sea salt, now we have to be very selective as to the place we get it. But it surely’s the foundation.
Katie: That is smart. And it strains up with what I’ve learn and what different podcast company have mentioned about how we are sometimes not getting wherever close to sufficient salt. And that particularly with the a number of many years of being afraid of salt and other people eradicating salt from their diets, after which people who find themselves attempting to eat a extra pure food plan primarily based on complete meals however should not including salt, that we are able to typically get very poor in that in a short time. And such as you talked about, that is vital for each a part of the physique to perform optimally, which can also be, it looks as if the case for lots of minerals. So from my understanding, we are able to make sure nutritional vitamins in our our bodies. Like as an example, we make vitamin D from solar publicity, however that’s not the case with minerals from what I perceive. So are you able to communicate to that and likewise how we are able to be certain that we’re getting sufficient of all these several types of minerals? Are there another gaps that we’d like to pay attention to?
Rick: The idea of nutritional vitamins and minerals is fascinating. The truth is, I’ve learn that the phrase vitamin is definitely a mix of two phrases important and mineral. I don’t know who thought that one up, however nutritional vitamins are, are primarily made, all our B nutritional vitamins are made in our intestine by micro organism. The truth is, a really fascinating story is E. Coli. E. Coli just isn’t a foul micro organism. It makes vitamin B12 in our our bodies, in our intestines. What has occurred and why E. Coli has gotten such a foul identify is that these those that had been elevating cattle in feed heaps had been giving them, quote unquote, natural meals. Effectively, they had been additionally giving them very refined meals and meals that they weren’t used to consuming. It actually transformed and mutated inside their intestine. And so the E. Coli micro organism that they got really was modified. It appeared like E. Coli, nevertheless it wasn’t just like the E. Coli that we use in our intestine. So it’s one other a kind of instances the place a micro organism which is totally important, has been demonized to the purpose the place it’s, oh, it’s lethal. Effectively, it definitely might trigger well being points and digestive points, nevertheless it’s a usually occurring aspect within the intestine. And in reality, it’s utilized by corporations that make nutritional vitamins to make B12. So that is type of a case of, effectively, gosh, what can we do?
Effectively, the one factor we have to be doing is ensuring that our intestine flora is in good well being. Our intestine flora does make all of the B nutritional vitamins. Our pores and skin makes the B nutritional vitamins. The one one which we in all probability must eat is vitamin C. They’re speaking about K2, whereas vitamin Ok after I studied vitamin, we didn’t even know what vitamin Ok was. So it’s a brand new one. And is it important and vital for bone? Not like silica.
However right here’s the distinction between a vitamin and a mineral. Inside each cell now we have a nucleus, after which now we have all of the cytoplasm of the cell. The nucleus accommodates the instruction to the cell with the RNA to make sure enzymes. These enzymes are then manufactured throughout the cell utilizing amino acids, proteins, and maybe some carbohydrate and maybe some fat. As soon as the enzyme which goes to make the cell be capable of do what it’s speculated to do is accomplished, and that is taking place each single second of each of our lives, there must be a selected mineral to connect to it to activate it. The enzyme will be activated by a mineral. If there’s no mineral for that to activate it, it received’t work. The nutritional vitamins act as boosters to that enzyme, so sure nutritional vitamins will come into play and can improve the functioning of the enzyme to optimize it. So you may have all of the nutritional vitamins you need, although, and should you don’t have the minerals, they received’t work, the enzyme won’t activate, received’t be catalyzed. And in order that’s the large important distinction. You want them each. However the one for the functioning of the cell itself is the mineral that could possibly be magnesium or potassium.
Right here’s an ideal instance. Your coronary heart. Your coronary heart has to beat each second of day by day, and generally faster than a second. There’s 4 components that basically management all of that: sodium and chloride and potassium and magnesium. The sodium and chloride work so far as having the ability to transport the potassium and the magnesium out and in of the cells. The potassium is what makes cells contract. So that you’ve bought to have, when your coronary heart cell makes this enzyme to contract, it has to have potassium in it, after which they’ll contract. Then although, it’s making one other enzyme proper behind it that makes use of magnesium to calm down. That’s why we at all times advocate should you’re getting cramps, take magnesium. If you happen to’re getting cramps throughout train, take potassium. However they’re each completely important and required. So then you definitely run out of that, you’ll die. However there are different nutritional vitamins that can even assist, however they can’t maintain the guts functioning by themselves. That’s the numerous distinction. I’ve taken scores of nutritional vitamins and I’ve by no means ever seen any end result or felt any end result like I’ve with the minerals. And in order that’s my tackle it.
Katie: And it is smart. You clarify it so effectively. And I do know you guys have the liquid minerals. I’ve began incorporating these for me and particularly for my children as effectively. For the youngsters. I really like that it’s straightforward to only add these to water or to any liquid. So it’s for even for teenagers who would have hassle swallowing capsules anyway, that is a straightforward solution to get them in. And I feel the thought of understanding how silica contributes to the collagen matrix within the physique is such an essential piece. And I’m actually glad we bought to go deep on that as a result of definitely lots of people are involved with that from an ageing perspective. However much more than the floor stage of how our pores and skin appears, that’s additionally, out of your clarification, impacting our bones, our organs, how every part is functioning throughout the physique as effectively.
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Are there any good tips for a way a lot of those minerals that we have to get at a selected time? Or how do we all know if we’re getting sufficient or if we’re not?
Rick: That’s the $64,000 query. And I pay no consideration in any respect to the Nationwide Academy of Sciences and what they are saying as a result of they’re all primarily based on solids and what you swallow and so they’re all primarily based on food plan. We don’t actually know what the optimum stage of minerals must be within the physique. That’s a steady research occurring as a result of we do hair mineral evaluation and we have a look at what’s within the hair. However that reveals you what you’ve consumed and what you’re utilizing and what you’ve excreted. And so it’s not essentially telling us what the optimum stage must be. After which who do you decide to measure for optimum? There’s no supply someplace of data that tells us that now we have to be taught it. And that complete course of is in course of, the educational course of. We’re human beings and we’re finding out and studying, however we nonetheless don’t have the reply.
So the primary suggestion is to just be sure you get a great a number of mineral. And that might be a mix of sea salt after which a multi like we make, or one other multi. However the issue is you want so a lot of them are primarily based on what you realize, oh, you bought to have 1000 milligrams of calcium, it’s important to have this and that, 400 milligrams of magnesium. It’s all supposition at this level. We don’t actually know. And so the factor to grasp, I feel, is what minerals would possibly trigger deficiencies that then you definitely would really feel and perceive that should you then complement it with that, you’re clearly not getting that mineral adequately in an ample stage to not have that symptom. So we’re going at it from a foundation of what individuals are experiencing in the best way of taking these minerals after they have an issue.
As a easy instance, magnesium, as soon as an individual begins to complement with it, and this could possibly be even a dose of ten milligrams, eight milligrams a day, particularly taken at night time, will be capable of get round muscle cramping. Muscle cramping is massive for us older folks, and it’s due to a scarcity of magnesium that’s created within the physique. We don’t do numerous bodily train once we become older, however should you get cramps throughout that, you want potassium. I keep in mind after I performed soccer, once we first began doing our exercises, I might at all times get cramps. And what was humorous is I now know that I wanted potassium. So after I’d get a cramp or no matter, I’d go to the sidelines and I’d eat grass. I actually would there can be lengthy issues of grass. I’d decide it up and I’d be chewing on the grass. I feel, oh, I used to be simply getting chlorophyll. No, I used to be getting every kind of issues, potassium, magnesium, and every part else. However we don’t know what the optimum must be. However my perception is should you start to include sea salt into your food plan, you’re going to be much better off, after which begin to be taught. And we’ve put collectively a e-book on what mineral illnesses could also be poor given sure signs, and that’s all Western medication is. They have a look at signs, they identify it, after which they try to discover a drug to suppress it, reasonably than to say, okay, right here’s a symptom. What cells are driving that? What cells make that work, and the way can we make these cells more healthy?
Katie: I adore it. I do know a lot extra we might be taught, and we might in all probability do an hour lengthy episode on every of those minerals by itself and nonetheless not even come near touching the entire info we would wish to grasp. However I used to be so excited to have you ever on and get to grasp extra as a result of I’ve been incorporating these into my very own life and for my children currently. And particularly I discussed my children all are in numerous athletic pursuits and that is type of their peak season. And so I’ve been handing out electrolytes and silica to a bunch of children who’re in my home, the home the place all people can at all times go for meals, and in the event that they’re there, I’m going to place minerals of their water as effectively.
However I used to be so excited to be taught from you as we speak. I hope we get to do a spherical two ultimately and perhaps cowl another minerals in depth as effectively. However like I mentioned, silica has been fairly life altering for me. I feel six pregnancies in all probability depleted the silica I did have in my physique, and so it’s been actually nice to replenish that, and I’m hoping to be taught rather more from you sooner or later. However a few questions I like to ask on the finish of interviews, the primary being if there’s a e-book or quite a few books which have profoundly impacted you personally and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.
Rick: Probably the most profound e-book I ever learn I feel was Conversations with God and I feel there’s about 5 of these books and in one of many books I overlook the man’s identify that wrote someone, he requested God, he mentioned I overlook even the query however the reply was God lives within the minerals. The minerals actually and we’re what we’re is power and the minerals are the energy-delivery mechanism. They’re made within the solar because the solar explodes. So they begin out as hydrogen after which it creates all the opposite minerals and once we take them in, they’re our power. We live minerals. That’s what we’re. In order that was in all probability essentially the most profound awakening that I ever had as to what actually that is all about. I’m within the course of, I’ll end, of writing a e-book about my concepts on the minerals and all of us have completely different concepts. We have to have a look at them after which consider them, see how they work for us after which adapt or not adapt. But it surely was Walsh, Neale Walsh wrote the e-book Conversations with God that was profound to me. I haven’t learn a e-book but that I might say is the final word and or actually motivated me extra so than my experiences, my private experiences. However there are a variety of books on the market now which might be addressing the completely different mineral components and why they’re so important however that was the one that basically bought me.
Katie: I’ll embody a hyperlink to that within the present notes as effectively and naturally hyperlinks to Eidon and to all of the merchandise that you simply guys have out there with some suggestions of those I’m at present taking as effectively. And lastly, is there any parting recommendation you wish to depart with the listeners as we speak that could possibly be associated to minerals or any of the matters we’ve talked about or solely unrelated life recommendation?
Rick: Sure. I had an epiphany a number of months in the past about life and other people and what we actually are and a few knowledgeable was saying oh, that is the best way it’s and that’s the best way it’s. My suggestion to everyone seems to be you’re no much less clever than another individual on the planet. All of us have our personal innate intelligence and so don’t hear to 1 factor or one other or suppose that as a result of some scientists got here up with the concept it’s actual and all of us have loads of innate intelligence. If you happen to go searching to all of the animals on the planet they’re dwelling simply advantageous by themselves. They don’t have docs caring for them, they don’t have their mothers and dads saying oh don’t do that and don’t do this. We’ve as a lot innate intelligence as anybody else on the market.
So while you learn info, take it with a grain of salt. Simply perceive that it could be proper, it could be incorrect, it could be good for you, it will not be. However you could comply with your individual emotions and instinct and intestine as to what you could be doing. However you may simply relaxation assured that you simply’re not going to be serving to your self by consuming something refined by man. So man just isn’t the reply. Nature is the reply so far as having the ability to optimize your well being. However understanding the way it works is the second factor. And hearken to what folks say after which consider it with every part else, you realize, and make your individual resolution. Don’t comply with something blindly. That’s my suggestion.
It’s humorous as a result of now after I have a look at hearken to anyone and I have a look at what they’re saying, I mentioned, effectively, does that make sense? Possibly not, however we have to be taught. And numerous it, I imply, mine has all been simply experiencing issues. I didn’t get to learn any of these things in a e-book till afterwards. Then that supported my very own experiences. So anyway, hearken to your self, hearken to your innate intelligence, and that may usually information you very, very effectively.
Katie: I really like that. I feel that’s an ideal place to wrap up for as we speak. And it touches on one thing I say typically on this podcast, that we’re every our personal main well being care supplier. And on the finish of the day, whereas we are able to work with practitioners who will be useful, the duty lies with us. And it’s our each day selections that make the largest distinction. And taking duty for that and for our personal well being is without doubt one of the finest steps we are able to take, I feel, to lifelong well being.
Rick: Completely. That’s it. That’s it.
Katie: Effectively, Rick, thanks a lot. It’s been a pleasure to get to speak to you as we speak. I discovered a bunch on this dialog and I’m so grateful in your time. Thanks for being right here.
Rick: Thanks. Take care.
Katie: And thanks, as at all times, to all of you for listening and sharing your most dear assets, your time, your power and your consideration with us as we speak. We’re each so grateful that you simply did and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of The Wellness Mama Podcast.
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