The New Millionaire’s Playbook with Gordy Bal

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Whats up and welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode, as I discussed within the 700th episode, is deviating from simply bodily well being and wellness, so that could be a part right here and delving a bit of bit into the monetary facet of wellness as effectively. This episode is all about how we’re all buyers, and The New Millionaire’s Playbook. And I’m right here with my pal Gordy Bal, who’s a really heart-centered entrepreneur. He’s an investor and a visionary chief on this house. And he’s the creator of the brand new guide, The New Millionaire’s Playbook, which is, I cherished this guide, and I’ll hyperlink to it within the present notes. He’s the founder as effectively of the Aware Thought Revolution, which consists of a enterprise capital fund and a world-class advertising and marketing company, which invests in entrepreneurs and organizations dedicated to bettering humanity. And thru these organizations, he spearheaded the transformation of early startups into billion-dollar powerhouses. And we go deep on this episode about a whole lot of the interior and thought-based facets of investing in entrepreneurship and monetary success. So, I do know it is a little little bit of a brand new matter, however he offers a whole lot of nice methods on this episode and definitely additionally in his guide. So, let’s be a part of Gordy. Gordy, it’s such an honor to have you ever right here. Thanks for becoming a member of us.

Gordy: Completely my pleasure.

Katie: Effectively, I’m very excited to leap in and chat with you at this time. I opened the door just lately to elucidate that I used to be gonna be speaking about matters past simply bodily well being as a result of I do suppose our psychological well being, our religious well being, our monetary well being are all very priceless facets of well being and wellness. And I’m so excited to get to do this with you at this time, particularly. For individuals who aren’t acquainted, I’m gonna, in fact, hyperlink to your new guide, which I cherished, within the present notes at wellnessmama.com. However I do know that there was fairly the private journey right here as effectively. So, for background, I might love for those who might share a bit of little bit of your private journey and what led to the creation of this guide.

Gordy: Yeah, completely. So, I suppose I’ll begin, you recognize as, as a baby of immigrant mother and father who moved from India to Canada with $20. They had been first technology, and so they labored their asses off to actually create a life that they thought could be optimum for us. However rising up in that family, there was fairly a little bit of stress and battle and strife. And as a baby, the that means I made out of that was that, oh, it should be as a result of we don’t have some huge cash. So, I instantly took on this position of, like, effectively, I’m going to make as a lot cash as humanly doable and clear up not solely the issues at residence however clear up all the issues on this planet. And so, I bought actually good at entrepreneurial expertise. I developed them fairly early on. And being a baby of the web, I discovered the right way to earn cash on-line. And by the point I used to be in highschool, I used to be doing internet online affiliate marketing and producing tens of 1000’s of {dollars} a month. And so, my checking account was rising. And nothing was actually enhancing or altering as I assumed it will. And so, you recognize, issues, issues had been, had been form of like, you recognize, laborious. And, and I used to be like, effectively, I assumed if I made some huge cash, issues would get higher, however I nonetheless didn’t have any solutions. After which, so I’m like, okay, effectively, I’ll nonetheless go to college.

So, I went and bought a four-year diploma in three years trigger I’ve at all times been like this hacker form of like, how do I form of, you recognize, do issues sooner, cheaper, smarter, simpler, you recognize, how entrepreneurs do. So, I bought my four-year diploma in three years whereas launching extra companies on-line, and I ended up constructing this, you recognize, and you recognize, on Wall Wtreet, they’ve like high-frequency buying and selling for shares. I did that however for internet advertising. So, I constructed like this site visitors platform that was shopping for and promoting adverts, and it was making like an insane amount of cash. However I wakened in the future in deep existential dread. I felt like I’ve extra money than I do know what to do with. You already know, my household life is there’s nonetheless there’s nonetheless like, you recognize, strife and battle and stress. It’s not all rainbows and unicorns. And on the time, this historical mystic poet by the identify of Biggie Smalls, he had this tune Mo Cash, Mo Issues. And I felt like I used to be residing that as a result of I used to be spiritually bankrupt, though I had an enormous checking account.

And in order that’s once I began actually form of asking deeper questions of, like, wait, like, what is that this recreation I’m enjoying? How does the world truly work? Why is it that there’s some individuals who have a lot cash and are in a position to purchase and do something they need, and simply down the identical road, there’s folks that may’t even purchase meals and don’t even have footwear to put on? And the way does the federal government work? How does the healthcare system work? How does schooling system work? And so, I began form of deconstructing a whole lot of these establishments of energy solely to comprehend and are available to this conclusion that the sport is rigged. Like we’re all enjoying this recreation the place a choose few profit at the price of everyone else and the planet. And in order that’s form of like, I’d say, the origin story of, you recognize, what bought me to start out asking larger questions and understanding how the world works.

However what I’ll say to cap that story off is that solely led to extra questions. As a result of once I noticed that the sport was rigged, as like, effectively, what’s the purpose of amassing a lot cash and energy. What’s the actual recreation being performed? And that’s once I actually dove deep into extra of the existential questions of, like, who am I? What’s my goal? What’s the nature of actuality? How does actuality truly get rendered? And what’s human consciousness? And in order that has been my final, I’d say, nearly 15-year journey actually diving deep into myself. So yeah, that’s the origin story.

Katie: I like it. And I might like to delve into among the belongings you write about within the guide as a result of I do suppose this is applicable to everybody. And I believe proper now we’re seeing so many mothers getting into the enterprise world, whether or not or not it’s by proudly owning their very own companies, by investing, by micro companies. There’s so many choices, such as you stated, with the daybreak of the web, actually the whole lot is at our fingertips. That doesn’t make it any simpler to leap in for those who’ve by no means executed it earlier than. However I really like that you simply introduced within the ethos of type of your religious part as a result of I believe that could be a large lacking piece that’s important after we’re speaking about truly aware change, which I do know is an enormous factor for you and for me as effectively. And my mission right here with Wellness Mama has at all times been to like and serve mothers and assist folks ask higher questions. And I actually consider that with some framework and logistical assist in place, after we assist and serve folks, the financial half nearly effortlessly works itself out if now we have that piece dialed in. So, I really like that you’ve got that woven by all of the message of your entire guide.

However I might love to start out delving into among the pillars that you simply discuss within the guide as a result of I really feel like it is a considerably new matter, presumably for lots of the folks listening. And also you give a lot absolute superb knowledge within the guide. So, are you able to possibly stroll us by the excessive degree of among the pillars that you simply carry up within the guide?

Gordy: Yeah, completely. So, the very first thing, so chat, so the important thing, the primary, so I discuss seven keys in the direction of freedom, goal, and abundance. And the primary secret’s round unplugging from the matrix. So, I put forth this notion of the matrix in, in, in a brand new definition the place I, I, I seek advice from it as a simulated actuality that’s projected from an influence system that’s globally entrenched and operates with unconscious ideas. And one of many methods by which that’s proliferated is thru social media and social media algorithms. And so, I additionally in, in that key, I discuss understanding this idea that Steve Jobs coined, which is the truth distortion area. So, consider the truth distortion area because the film display screen by which your life and your actuality will get performed.

Now, for many of us, that what’s being projected on that film display screen is from exterior inputs, whether or not that’s conditioning from our mother and father, whether or not it’s from the varsity system, whether or not it’s from mainstream media. And so, when that’s taking place, the film that’s being projected on that actuality distortion area known as our life or a actuality is externally pushed. And so, the large swap is to comprehend that we are able to truly interface with the truth distortion area and create our personal actuality. And the best way by which to do that is thru our ideas as a result of I discuss how our ideas are essentially the most highly effective forex now we have to take a position.

A examine out of Stanford confirmed that now we have between 40 and 60,000 ideas per day. And most of these ideas we’re unconscious of. And so these, and so after we are in a position to change into aware of the ideas that we’re having, we’re in a position to then depict and create the truth we would like as a result of ideas change into actuality. However after we’re not aware of it, we’re unconsciously type of enjoying out this actuality that’s externally curated for us. In order that’s form of the primary idea that I, and the primary key, I dive into.

After which, as soon as we unplug from the matrix, then I discuss the way it’s completely important, particularly at this time and now, to find our true goal. Why are we truly right here? And, and so I walked by a framework, a five-step framework on the right way to truly get clear in your life goal. And a part of that additionally, like a few of this sounds esoteric, however I stroll by pragmatic and sensible steps to get there. And a part of it’s to truly begin connecting along with your soul. And most of us have been so disconnected from our soul. So, once I’m speaking to, you recognize, whether or not it’s entrepreneurs or even when it’s mothers and, and the mother group is so large for me too. My, my spouse, who, you recognize, you’ve gotten to satisfy, Sukhi, now we have three children, and I’ve seen simply how a lot she has devoted her life to the elevating of kids. And now I’m watching her transfer into again into, like, type of exterior of mother mode, however into creator world. And so, serving to assist her and maintain house for her to find her goal. It’s been so profound and magical to see that. And so, I believe, particularly with, you recognize, the proliferation of synthetic intelligence and, and I imply, you’ve seen the ability of, of AI and even simply ChatGPT, like, if we’re not connecting to the deeper side of ourself and most of our ideas are unconscious, it’s not lengthy earlier than we’re gonna be working for our AI overlords. So, that is why it’s so essential to find our goal. So, I walked by that in key two.

After which, key three, I seek advice from you as measure your MEPS. So, MEPS stands for, it’s 4 KPIs that I discuss. MEPS stands for psychological, emotional, bodily, and religious well-being. And what’s actually cool now could be that now we have a lot entry to information that we are able to use to start to quantify our well-being. We will truly start to know and measure our psychological well-being, our emotional well-being, our bodily well-being, and even our religious well-being. And so, I stroll by pragmatic and sensible methods on how we are able to start to make use of these because the foundational items to then transfer on to what I, the subsequent secret’s, you recognize, uncover your mission to MARS.

And the MARS that I’m speaking about is just not what, you recognize, Elon Musk is constructing rockets to go to a different planet. I seek advice from MARS as a number of automated income streams. And I believe a part of after we, as soon as we’ve unplugged from the matrix, we’ve found our goal and now we’re starting to measure our MEPS, now we are able to use these items to start to design abundance producing techniques. And that is the place we get to make use of automation and AI to assist assist us. After which I additionally discuss how we are able to truly flip the swap on social media. And as an alternative of it being one thing that harvests our consideration, we are able to truly use it and use its energy to do easy issues like market analysis, construct group, serve folks at massive, and see what they want and need.

So, after which after that, I get into some extra, I’d say, extra of the religious facet of issues. I get into like the right way to construct resilience, relationships, and assets. After which, you recognize, by the top of it, I begin transferring into this follow that I’ve developed, and I’m instructing round engineering synchronicities. As a result of I’ve been learning the artwork and science of manifesting. You bear in mind when The Secret got here out and the legislation of attraction and like, it was, that was actually cool, however as a result of for me, I additionally should be intellectually stimulated, and I actually need to know the science and the underpinnings of it, I started to check that and actually perceive how electromagnetic frequencies work, how our cells have electrical exercise, how the frequency of our cells can truly attract and usher in that which we both unconsciously or consciously need. So, I form of bridge that. So, I begin pragmatic and sensible, after which by the top of the guide, we’re getting a bit of bizarre.

Katie: I really like that. My journey has definitely taken me into that realm as effectively in the previous few years, and I’ve come to comprehend simply how actually pivotal that’s to so many facets of our lives. This piece that I used to not take note of in any respect has now change into so core to a lot of what I do. However I might like to hone in on a few belongings you talked about. There’s clearly extra within the guide than we are able to unpack on this one episode, however you talked about so many superb issues, and I wish to go deeper on a few them.

I really like, particularly you talked in regards to the energy of ideas. This was large for me. Really, even in my type of trauma restoration journey, I didn’t understand till I began auditing my ideas, such as you stated, what number of of them had been adverse. And I actually consider that our unconscious works to reply the questions we give it. But when we give it questions that we truly don’t need the solutions to, it’s going to present us solutions we don’t need. And so, as a really surface-level instance, once I would say issues like, why is it so laborious to shed weight? Why I do that? Why is that this so laborious? It might reply these questions, and it will be like, oh, effectively, you may have six children, you may have thyroid points, you, blah, blah, blah. And once I discovered to start out being attentive to that interior communicate of my ideas and asking myself higher questions, I began getting dramatically higher solutions. And I do know that that’s only a very small instance, however I might love so that you can delve a bit of deeper into what you discuss in being attentive to our ideas and beginning to curate them to type of transfer in a extra optimistic course for us.

Gordy: Yeah, effectively, I really like the truth that you simply talked about a thought audit. I don’t even, I didn’t even know that you simply do this, however that’s what I discuss as effectively, is we have to audit our ideas. And one of many workouts that I do even for myself, and I do once I’m facilitating for a gaggle of entrepreneurs, is I’ll simply have them freestyle their complete thoughts for an hour. And so they’ll simply journal what the interior dialogue is saying. And it once they see and replicate again what the thoughts is doing, it’s alarming as a result of, for essentially the most half, this can be very disempowering. And it’s it’s consistently bought this voice of such as you stated, it’s a it’s framed in a why query. And and a part of the programming of our thoughts, after we’re asking why questions, what it’s doing is it’s truly creating an ineffective course of as a result of whenever you ask the query, why can’t I shed weight, what you’re doing to your personal system is you’re making a protection, it’s like now I’ve to defend myself in opposition to this query of why. And so, whenever you, however whenever you ask a what or how query, such as you stated, now you’re asking a query, it’s like, what do I must do to shed weight? Or what do I must do to generate abundance? How can I generate abundance? There’s no emotional set off to it. Now you’re simply, you’re asking a query to excavate solution-oriented course of. And in order that’s an enormous piece as effectively.

One other one which like an instantaneous hack that I at all times discuss is simply in any given second, you may pause and say, am I having my ideas? Or are my ideas having me? And most often, folks will discover that our ideas are having us there. It’s the fixed programming and conditioning that’s simply transferring and consistently going. There’s this different train that’s actually cool {that a} good pal of mine taught me. It’s known as sportscaster. So, what you’ll do is you’ll sit in a dyad. So, we’ll sit throughout from one another like this. And for 5 minutes straight, we’ll truly, as if we’re a sportscaster, we’ll sportscast our ideas out loud and verbalize them. So, it might sound one thing like this: Okay, so now I’m sitting right here throughout from Katie, we’re doing a Wellness Mama podcast. I’m myself within the digicam. Do I look okay? Okay, let me suppose that that’s this working? Are folks gonna like this podcast? Is the content material good? What are we truly gonna discuss? How do we modify folks’s lives? Okay, oh, did I brush my enamel with the fitting toothpaste at this time? Oh, fascinating, why did I simply take into consideration that? So, you see prefer it simply goes loopy after which comparable. However whenever you’re doing that with any person, and so they’re witnessing it, they’re serving to you extract a whole lot of the programming and conditioning. And in order that’s one other cool train.

However I believe what’s most fun for me, and like the place I’m creating a physique of labor, is round this notion that our ideas are essentially the most highly effective forex for us to take a position. As a result of we’re investing our ideas. Like I stated, 40 to 60,000 ideas a day. That implies that during the last 17 days, you’ve invested one million ideas. The place did you make investments these million ideas? What was the ROI on these ideas? The place are you gonna make investments your subsequent million ideas? And what, how are you going to make use of these ideas to design the lifetime of your goals? In order that’s one thing that I’ve been actually excited to play with as a result of think about for those who had like a Fitbit to your ideas. And you possibly can have like this means to measure the standard of your ideas, effectively, we’re getting there quickly sufficient. And I believe the extra we’re in a position to do this, that’s what’s going to create this, you recognize, evolution of human consciousness the place we do awaken and we do transcend the programming and conditioning that’s been there for us. As a result of as you recognize, for after we’re children from zero to eight, we’re in a theta state and we’re principally simply absorbing our complete world and getting programmed. And so even now in our, you recognize, thirties, forties, fifties, and sixties, we’re simply enjoying out the zero to eight. From zero to eight is what we’re enjoying out as adults. And so, half, such as you stated, a part of the trauma work goes again into these time and areas and therapeutic that which nonetheless must be healed and built-in.

So, yeah, that’s and even my, you recognize, our group is, so, okay, I’ll share this actually profound, highly effective story. I shared within the guide, however that is the pivotal story. Once I was doing the internet advertising stuff, we had a day in 2007, we had a record-breaking day the place we did over six figures in in the future. And what I went and did is I went and purchased the area identify ctr.com. For these of you who don’t know, in internet advertising, CTR stands for click-through charge. And so, it’s successful metric that in case your click-through charge is increased, then your marketing campaign might be performing higher. And so, I used to be intelligent, and I needed to construct a expertise platform that will auto-optimize the click-through charge for our purchasers and advertisers. Quick ahead to 2015, I used to be deep within a meditation, and I bought such a transparent, highly effective message, which was, it went like this, we don’t want the next click-through charge. What we’d like is a aware thought revolution. And my entire physique began shaking with this like profound fact. And from that second, that’s how now my, you recognize, my entire mission in life is to measurably speed up the evolution of human consciousness, beginning with my very own. And in order that’s why the final 10 years, that’s what I’ve been engaged on and proceed to work on. And as you recognize, the extra of the onion layers you peel, the extra you understand there’s extra to proceed peeling.

Katie: I really like that story. And also you additionally use the phrases engineering synchronicities. And I might love to speak about doing this type of deliberately as a result of I’ve seen the sample in my very own life that when I’m most in a state of unconditional love and authenticity, I at the very least discover synchronicities way more. And possibly it is going to be useful so that you can outline that phrase for individuals who aren’t tremendous clear on what it means. However even I just lately had an expertise at a convention the place I used to be simply in that state of form of receptivity and authenticity. And it was like each dialog occurred precisely completely and performed out precisely what the folks I hoped to attach with, with the concepts I used to be attempting to study. Every little thing simply fell into place so superbly that I used to be for 2 weeks after on this simply absolute gratitude excessive. And so, I might love so that you can discuss extra about engineering synchronicities and clarify what meaning.

Gordy: Yeah, completely. So, I’ve come to comprehend that we’re the universe experiencing and increasing itself by us. So, every one among us are a unique vantage level of the universe itself experiencing and increasing itself. So, if we wish to have and usher in and manifest and have a synchronicity within our life, we are able to interface with the universe as a result of we’re the universe to do that. Effectively, there’s, you recognize, we are able to discuss type of the paranormal, legendary facets of it, that are cool and fascinating, however they’re not very sensible and pragmatic. So for me, I needed to search out the pragmatic and sensible and science-based ways in which I can use my bodily physique and my inside system to engineer synchronicities, which I consider are the biofeedback alerts from the universe telling you that you’re now in a state of manifesting.

So what occurs, what I’ve found is that after we’re in emotional states which are of decrease frequencies, so after we’re in worry or greed or lack, then what we’re unconsciously signaling to the universe is that that’s the frequency that we’re vibrating at. So, as a result of we’re like a magnet, that’s what we’re gonna proceed to perpetuate in our life. And that’s why when a whole lot of us typically are in a sufferer mode, we form of keep there as a result of that’s what we’re drawing in. However after we’re in a position to elevate our emotional states and embody, like gratitude is among the highest frequency, vibrational frequency states that you may be in. And after we’re in that state, then we’re in a position to truly design and engineer with the universe to start out bringing in states of actuality that we actually want that’s truly related to our soul that’s deeper than some superficial like, oh, I want hundreds of thousands of {dollars} tomorrow.

And so, one of many issues that I labored on to develop is that this course of, I name it the MAGIC meditation. And so, the magic stands for the M is for magnetize. The A is for alchemize. The G is for generate. The I is to encourage and the C is to clear. And so, it’s a seven-minute meditation, and it’s nearly like an activation. It’s to a lovely soundtrack. And so, what we’re doing is we’re truly activating the interior magnetic frequencies of our physique. After which we’re, so we’re, we’re bringing in and we’re altering our state to usher in all that which we actually want. And now what occurs although, is we at all times get like, we talked about, there’s that nearly like that self-sabotage interior voice that’s at all times there, the, the unconscious and unconscious. So, after we’re magnetizing and bringing in, we’re additionally, our unconscious can be bringing within the issues that don’t serve us. And in order that’s why the A for alchemize is we, I there’s this course of that takes a few minute the place as soon as we carry the whole lot in, we alchemize and transmute utilizing an power system in our physique, all of the adverse power into optimistic power. After which we transfer up, and we’re truly transferring.

So, the entire objective within the system is you’re transferring up the physique. You’re transferring into the totally different power techniques or in historical wisdoms, they name them the chakras. And so, after which from after you alchemize, you progress as much as the guts. And what we do is we spend a while to generate the elevated feelings of gratitude, as if that which you already, that which you want has already occurred. As a result of whenever you do this, you at the moment are signaling to the universe, which you’re the universe, you’re already signaling that you simply’re not in lack. And since you’re not in lack and also you’re already experiencing the elevated feelings of getting that which you need, you open up the sector and also you change into, such as you magnetize it much more and also you carry it in.

After which we transfer as much as the throat chakra, which is, after which we transfer to the I, which is to encourage. And encourage comes from the Latin phrase of inspirare, which was to talk fact to. And they’d give that phrase to divine beings in historical instances. And so, we do that, this field respiratory train the place you then exhale out for 4 seconds, you make an auditory sound to place again into the universe that, so that you usher in, you magnetize, you transmute, you generate, you encourage out. After which the final step is the C, which is evident. And that is the place we transfer as much as, you recognize, the pineal gland, the third eye, you carry our consciousness there. After which we do a deep re-oxygenation course of and deep inhales and exhales.

And so, this entire factor solely takes seven minutes. You may get entry to it at new millionairesplaybook.com free of charge. And, um, and whenever you do that, inside that day, you’ll begin seeing synchronicity. So, I, I, you recognize, I noticed you at, um, Dave Asprey’s biohacking convention, and I facilitated this course of for a gaggle of individuals and, and it was to set the stage for that weekend for them. And it was superb. It will get folks would come as much as me and be like, oh my God, you gained’t consider what simply occurred. I used to be, I used to be attempting to resolve this downside. And after we did this seven-minute meditation, swiftly, the issue mechanically bought solved. And, oh, I simply met this individual that I’ve been seeking to meet. So, it’s simply, it’s loopy. And, and what’s superb is like, you recognize, you don’t need to put in that a lot effort. I believe that’s a part of the phantasm that we’ve fallen for is that life needs to be laborious, and now we have to place a lot effort, however that’s solely as a result of we’re enjoying three-dimensionally. Once we begin like connecting to our soul, which operates multi-dimensionally, it operates exterior of this bodily realm. That’s when you may hack the system, and you may like hack the matrix, and you may like, you recognize, play a recreation that’s a bit of bit totally different.

And that’s why I discuss in regards to the new millionaire. The brand new millionaire isn’t any person who’s chasing hundreds of thousands of {dollars}. The brand new millionaire is any person who lives a life to positively affect hundreds of thousands of individuals, beginning with their very own. And the way do they do this? Once more, they uncover their goal. They unplug from the matrix. They start to measure their MAPS, after which they uncover how they’ll serve hundreds of thousands of individuals, which then, such as you stated initially of this, that’s how they generate abundance. The abundance technology turns into a byproduct of them serving hundreds of thousands of individuals, having an intention to serve hundreds of thousands. And also you don’t, and that doesn’t imply you must contact hundreds of thousands of individuals. You possibly can affect, you recognize, 100 folks or a thousand folks, however the, the ripple impact of that can, will proliferate. After which, you recognize, by straight or not directly, you’ll positively affect hundreds of thousands of individuals. And that’s the brand new millionaire. And that’s the subsequent technology. That’s, that’s the place millennials, Gen Z are transferring to as a result of they know the outdated recreation is damaged. The outdated millionaire recreation is damaged. Look the place we’re.

And that’s why I really like the work you’re doing, too, as a result of a part of what I found is the outdated recreation was, was very masculine. And it was a really like penetrative, like, I bought a hoard and management and get as a lot as doable. However the brand new recreation, it’s about balancing the enjoying area. It’s about honoring the divine female. And that’s why I’m like such an enormous fan of, you recognize, what you’re doing for mothers as a result of we, I imply, Mom Earth is a mother.

Katie: I like it. And I do know you may have a lot extra that you simply cowl within the guide in addition to in your web site. So, I’ll put each of these hyperlinks within the present notes for all of you guys listening. However I really like that we bought to go in a few of these instructions on this episode, and we’re going to get to do one other brief episode as effectively. So that you guys maintain a watch out for that one. However Gordy, it’s at all times a pleasure. Thanks a lot. This has been a lot enjoyable.

Gordy: Yeah, no downside. Thanks a lot.

Katie: And thanks as at all times to all of you for listening, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode.

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