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Katie: Good day, and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com, that’s W-E-L-L-N-E-S-S-E.com. It’s my new private care line that’s EWG secure and completely pure. And this episode, I’m right here with a great pal of mine, Tero Isokauppila, who’s a real enjoyable man, pun meant. So, Tero’s roots, or mycelium in his phrases, if you’ll, are in Finland the place he grew up foraging for mushrooms and different wild meals on his household farm that they’ve owned since 1619. He later earned a level in chemistry, enterprise and a certificates in plant-based vitamin from Cornell College. In 2012, he based 4 Sigmatic, which is one among my favourite corporations. It’s an organization dedicated to elevating our each day routines by making each day magical via utilizing revolutionary mushroom-based merchandise, like mushroom espresso, edible skincare, and many others.
He’s an knowledgeable in all issues associated to mushrooms, adaptogens, well being, startups and punny dad jokes. He’s additionally the writer of two bestselling books, “Therapeutic Mushrooms” and “Santa Offered Shrooms,” which is a youngsters’s e-book. On this episode, in gentle of the whole lot happening presently, we go deep not nearly pure skincare and the way what you place in your physique goes into your physique, but in addition concerning the immune system and the way we are able to assist our our bodies from the within out and the surface in, in worrying instances and guarantee that we’re optimally set as much as deal with no matter life throws at us. So, with out additional ado, let’s soar proper in with Tero.
Tero, welcome, thanks for being right here once more.
Tero: Thanks for having me on. It’s all the time a pleasure, particularly now in these wild, wild instances that we’re residing in.
Katie: It has gotten just a little wild. I positively know we each need to speak about that just a little bit at this time and there’s definitely lots that you could share on loads of completely different points of this. However to start out off, what I used to be initially bringing you on to speak about at this time earlier than issues bought just a little wild all through the nation is you may have just lately launched a skincare line via 4 Sigmatic and I’ve additionally been in growth within the private care world for my toothpaste and shampoo and have performed loads of analysis on this world over the past 12 months, and in order that’s a very vital matter to cowl. And I do know that we’ll truly tie this into immunity and to another subjects which might be very high of thoughts at this time. However to start out, I’d love to listen to about what went into the event of your skincare merchandise, and to the purpose that, from my understanding, they’re truly even not simply okay to eat however truly totally edible. So speak about that and the way that happened.
Tero: Yeah, we launched our skincare line earlier this 12 months and it’s been a wild journey. It happened lots via client suggestions, so loads of our prospects and neighborhood was asking for skincare merchandise. They learn in my e-book and different sources how mushrooms and adaptogens can assist with pores and skin and so they’d seen it in different skincare merchandise extra that use mushrooms or adaptogens that in any other case may need not been fairly as clear. And so loads of client suggestions and simply studying from, notably, the Korean and Japanese cultures, magnificence worlds, and the way a few of these mushrooms can assist enhance pores and skin high quality.
And the issue with me was that I don’t actually use skincare and I exploit like ultra-pure private care merchandise as nicely that had been onerous to search out and there’s not a product in the marketplace that match my private high quality requirements. And I needed extra transparency, I needed extra of actual meals substances and that sort of impressed us to launch our first skincare merchandise which might be additionally totally edible. So a face masks that can be scorching chocolate utilizing actually easy substances like cacao, spices, mushrooms, adaptogens however you too can put it in your pores and skin.
Katie: I really like that. I’m very a lot on the identical web page with you about that and I feel most individuals have a passing understanding that what we placed on our our bodies will get into our our bodies to some extent however I feel individuals don’t essentially all the time understand the extent to which after we put dangerous issues on our pores and skin, loads of that does truly enter the bloodstream, it does enter our physique, and in addition modifications our pores and skin microbiome and might affect even via that our intestine microbiome and all types of issues down the street. So let’s speak about a few of the widespread issues individuals have to know and keep away from in relation to conventional skincare merchandise.
Tero: Yeah, simply to construct off of that, I feel lots of people, like, vaguely know that what will get put in your pores and skin will get into your bloodstream, however such as you stated, they don’t understand the extent, which to me is just a little shocking as a result of after we purchase a nicotine patch or one thing, the nicotine does go into our bloodstream. So we don’t suppose that these plastics and different harsh chemical compounds will enter our bloodstream as nicely, that’s sort of, to me, just a little shocking. So one is simply getting actual good understanding is that an enormous a part of issues that we put in our pores and skin will enter our bloodstream to the extent that should you swim in beer, you get drunk. If you happen to take a shower with magnesium or Epsom salt, you’re going to get that into your bloodstream and loosen up. And we simply don’t take that under consideration. And lots of people say that, nicely, it’s only a small quantity, however that small quantity each day a number of instances builds up so whenever you use a toothpaste or a skincare serum each day, if not twice a day, then that’s going to have an enormous, sort of, compounding impact. In order that’s clearly an excellent start line.
The opposite factor is I feel understanding the business is admittedly priceless. We purchase actually costly skincare merchandise and in addition private care merchandise, realizing how a lot does it truly price to make them? And that is all public data however should you go to L’Oreal and Estee Lauder’s web site, you understand that they spend 3% to 4% of their gross sales on the precise product. So it’s quite common that you just purchase a $100 skincare product the place it solely prices $1 what’s contained in the bottle after which $2 to $4 on packaging and the remaining is simply margin. All these fancy adverts that they do and fashions they pay and opulent life-style, that’s paid by promoting you $1 of worth for $100 of price, and I feel that’s additionally fairly unhappy and irritating. So these is likely to be two good issues to consider whenever you typically method skincare and different, sort of, magnificence and luxurious merchandise.
Katie: I agree, and what I discovered actually attention-grabbing as I began researching this world as nicely is that you just’re proper, individuals don’t actually acknowledge simply how a lot can enter our physique from the surface, however on the similar time usually will have a look at any sort of pores and skin downside as a purely exterior downside. So if it’s pimples, they suppose they should deal with it simply with one thing topical on the pores and skin and so they don’t suppose via the truth that…and we now know from the analysis a lot of that’s truly inner. Any pores and skin downside is originating within the physique someplace and we’re simply seeing it on the pores and skin as an outward expression of that. So let’s additionally speak concerning the vitamin and inner facet of how we are able to enhance our pores and skin from the within out as nicely.
Tero: Sure. So sure, it will begin with what pores and skin is and what does it do? So pores and skin is our largest organ and it’s constructed from cells like the rest. So should you stay wholesome or unhealthy and what’s the standard of your mitochondria and your cells will affect together with your pores and skin. It’s only a distinction between topical skincare and ingestible skincare, ingestible magnificence is the timeframe. Pores and skin doesn’t rejuvenate itself each day. Relying on how outdated you’re, it may take wherever from 20 to 40 days, and even longer should you’re older. So whenever you eat for magnificence and have a nutritious diet, that basically helps you long-term versus topical skincare can resolve an issue at this time, and like many different types of well being, we’re usually drawn to the instant fast repair, proper, and that’s sort of a bummer.
However topical skincare can assist with, I might say, the signs, however if you wish to work on the trigger, you need to have a wholesome physique, wholesome cells. That additionally implies that when you may have a wholesome physique, wholesome cells, wholesome pores and skin, you want much less product and the product works higher. So consuming for pores and skin is so so vital, and there are particular vitamins which might be notably good for the pores and skin should you consider what the pores and skin does. I feel you already partially touched upon it, however the aesthetic ingredient of the pores and skin is only one of just about, I might say, 7, 8 capabilities of the pores and skin, you may even lengthen it to 10 completely different capabilities the pores and skin does, and the aesthetic half is only one.
Our pores and skin will contact, it’s going to shield us from temperature modifications, it’s going to shield our absorption of vitamins, even oxygen. Individuals don’t know however the pores and skin absorbs oxygen. However the huge factor, I feel, to me, is safety. So there’s immunity on our pores and skin. Apart from being the primary barrier towards pathogens, it’s additionally the place loads of our immunity lives. We’ll all the time have micro organism, so if you’re petrified of micro organism, it’s simply good to know that irrespective of how a lot you scrub your pores and skin with this coronavirus, with cleaning soap or others, there’ll all the time be micro organism in your pores and skin. you may by no means out-scrub your micro organism. And wherever there’s micro organism, there’s additionally going to be mushrooms.
You understand, you may have your microbiome, additionally which is your mushroom biome, and never simply your intestine biome. So each your intestine and your pores and skin will all the time have micro organism and all the time have mushrooms. It’s simply the query turns into what sort of micro organism and what sort of mushrooms does your pores and skin have and are they supporting your immunity and your aesthetic perform or are they hurting your immunity and aesthetic perform? So it’s simply essential to know that topical skincare can assist short-term however as a way to have long-term good pores and skin, you want this ingestible magnificence and also you wanted to know that irrespective of how a lot you scrub your pores and skin, there’ll all the time be micro organism and mushrooms in it and that with sure forms of vitamins, you may assist your pores and skin additionally internally in addition to externally.
Katie: Yeah, completely. I feel, on the finish of the day, that’s the important thing, it’s not both/or, it’s each and all the time. And I feel that I seen that after I was an adolescent and I struggled with pimples, I attempted to deal with it topically for a very long time and it wasn’t till I addressed issues like intestine well being and all the inner components associated to well being did that totally resolve itself. So I’m curious, each on a private degree and I do know that you just do loads of analysis on this space in your merchandise, what ought to we be consuming for good, pores and skin what ought to we be avoiding for the sake of our pores and skin and our total well being, and the way does that work, like what does your precise routine appear like for that?
Tero: Yeah, I imply the dangerous information is that it’s a must to take loads of issues into consideration. The excellent news is that the identical issues that you just take into accounts to having lovely pores and skin are additionally the stuff you take into accounts to have basic longevity, have immunity, have robust cognitive perform. So all of those are very a lot linked. I discussed one of many issues that it’s a must to take into accounts is your intestine biome and your microbiome. So your intestine well being, that’s extremely vital. And this may go each methods. This may be eradicating issues out of your food regimen that is likely to be dangerous in your intestine in addition to including issues like probiotics, prebiotics, good micro organism, good mushrooms into your food regimen. So intestine well being is certainly one main think about pores and skin well being.
The opposite one is irritation, and I might even say irritation/stress. Your pores and skin will be all types of…have irritation/stress infections, rashes, and calming down the physique total is admittedly priceless. On the finish of the day, in all probability one of the best factor you are able to do in your pores and skin is sleep. The most effective factor for something in your well being might be sleep. So simply sustaining wholesome stress ranges and sort of preventing off irritation, and the intestine well being is clearly very linked to that irritation, as you nicely know. The second can be stress. It’s very priceless.
After which lastly, any forms of antioxidants, notably sure forms of polyphenols that you could…and sure coloration pigments are notably good for the pores and skin. So we are able to deep dive on what can be these meals that might be actually good in your pores and skin. However to summarize, intestine well being, stress administration/irritation, and antioxidants, these can be simply three, sort of, key issues I might bear in mind when consuming in your pores and skin.
Katie: Obtained it. I really like that. And yeah, we are able to positively go into extra specifics inside every of these classes. And I feel this dovetails completely with an space that I need to speak about and I’m so glad I get to speak about with you, which matches alongside hand-in-hand with this, and that’s immunity. And anyone listening to this, I do know there’s loads of speak about that proper now and there’s loads of, I feel, in all probability overwhelmed and a few worry happening. And also you’re one among my favourite individuals to speak to about this as a result of I do know that you just come from a really level-headed place and a well-researched place and that you just’re not going to buy-in to all the worry, however you’re additionally in all probability taking a really sensible and research-backed method. So I’d like to sort of dovetail this now into the realm of immunity and the way we are able to all use sure practical meals and merchandise to assist our immune programs throughout this time.
Tero: Yeah, once more, taking the ten,000 meals perspective first is that immunity, sadly, shouldn’t be high of thoughts for lots of people, even actually wholesome individuals. They are saying that no person buys an umbrella except it’s raining and that very same goes for immunity as nicely. So only a few individuals give attention to immunity except it’s the “immune season,” which suggests the flu season. So lots of people are centered on the flu season. And let’s be sincere, lots of people die of the flu each single 12 months. However the immunity doesn’t take breaks. The immunity doesn’t know that there’s an immune season. It’s simply one thing it’s best to take into accounts on a regular basis and never simply due to staying wholesome but in addition as a result of the immune perform is a lot linked with different areas of our life, together with the pores and skin and cognitive perform.
However again to the immune perform, you’ll have this inner safety system that begins together with your pores and skin. However you’ll have these inner safety officers in your physique, pure killer cells, cytokines, white blood cells, and so they’re there to guard you. And make little doubt about it, each day there will probably be intruders in your physique. There is no such thing as a technique to, like, shield your self even should you’re in quarantine of all pathogens. Like, there’ll all the time be pathogens attempting to enter your physique and each day your physique is preventing off, that by no means ends. Positive, at instances, these intruders is likely to be stronger and would possibly require extra of resistance out of your physique, and in case your inner safety is low, you would possibly get the flu or a cough or extended in individuals with poor immune programs and so they is likely to be just a little extra delicate to issues like most cancers.
There’s additionally one other ingredient of that is that in case your immune system is hyperactive versus passive, it implies that your physique is so actively attempting to battle off that it might probably’t even battle off wholesome cells and issues that aren’t intruders. That is when allergy symptoms and autoimmune problems can actually construct up. So our immune system is sort of difficult and clever however at instances it’s both passive or hyperactive and that’s when the each day battle towards these pathogens can get actually tough. So, subsequently, you have to be feeding your immune system on an ongoing foundation with great things. I discussed intestine well being being fairly important for it and for that motive, like not being afraid of micro organism on mushrooms however understanding that these will all the time be a part of your self and simply having good micro organism mushrooms, which sort of takes us to the options.
Like, what are you able to do to enhance immunity? Effectively, once more, it’s what you don’t do and what you do. What you don’t do might be feed off your physique with processed meals, sugars, and customary allergens. These may not be one of the best factor in your physique versus what’s wonderful is issues that feed the immune system. And clearly, my huge ardour is mushrooms and these mushrooms have these explicit forms of polysaccharides, notably these beta-D-glucans which might be among the many most studied issues for immunity and so they have these immunomodulatory advantages which might be capable of modulate the immune system both extra energetic or extra passive relying in your physique is at want. It’s also possible to discover these beta-D-glucans in small quantities in issues like oats and sure berries like goji berries however they’re probably the most prevalent in these mushrooms.
After which the opposite factor is prebiotics, so good fibers into your physique will feed off in your intestine, the great forms of micro organism and fungi. So including fibers and prebiotics and including these mushroom extracts into your food regimen is among the greatest methods. On high of that, there’s extra seasonal options that you just would possibly need to contemplate if you recognize that you just’re more likely to get, within the flu season, hit just a little more durable equivalent to excessive dose of vitamin C, sure minerals equivalent to zinc. However you bought to watch out with sure vitamins which might be promoted for immune perform equivalent to echinacea, even garlic. If you happen to devour them on an ongoing foundation, they’re immunostimulants, they stimulate the immune system, however should you use them on a protracted foundation, your immune system would possibly get overstimulated. So that you need to search for each seasonal options that may work nice for a couple of months of the 12 months. You additionally need to be aware, which a type of you need to use year-round, and mushrooms are nice simply because these reishi mushrooms, and shiitakes, and chagas, you may devour year-round.
Katie: That’s an excellent level. Yeah, I’m an enormous fan of biking most dietary supplements for that motive of not letting the physique ever adapt to it and since then they will have reverse penalties, such as you stated, in some unspecified time in the future and I really like that mushrooms are one of many ones that we are able to safely devour each day, and I definitely do. I do know that you just do in addition to. Are there any particular suggestions in relation to mushrooms that you just’re particularly centered on proper now simply within the curiosity of supporting your physique and your immune system?
Tero: Yeah, I might have a look at these mushroom polysaccharides and beta-D-glucans like chlorophyll. You in all probability need to devour chlorophyll each day into your physique, nevertheless it doesn’t imply you eat spinach each day. You in all probability need to have arugula, you in all probability need to have nettle or dandelion. You need to, sort of, rotate the forms of chlorophylls that you just’re consuming the identical manner you need to in all probability rotate just a little bit of those mushrooms. However for the sake of immunity functions alone, all the highest mushrooms have these beta-D-glucans for immunomodulatory functions, but when there may be one celebrity for immunity notably, it’s the chaga mushroom, C-H-A-G-A, and it’s getting loads of consideration now contemplating the place the world is on simply the distinctive capabilities that that chaga mushroom has after which its capability to assist the immune system.
So if individuals are searching for options for immunity, I both advocate a mix of a number of mushrooms, you recognize, wherever from like 5 to 10 of the highest mushrooms in extract type, so attempt to discover merchandise which have a fruiting physique, which might be extracted, and so they’re natural, these can be the three high quality components, and taking a mix of 5 to 10 mushrooms each day. Or should you actually need to have a bazooka impact for immune system, then I might actually search for chaga mushroom notably, like a excessive dose, over 1000 mg of wildcrafted chaga extract would in all probability be an answer I might contemplate, and mixing that with a excessive dose of vitamin C, each for absorption of the actives within the mushroom but in addition basic immune assist. So that might be my advisable protocol.
Katie: I find it irresistible. And I do know additionally that you just stay a really holistic life and give attention to loads of different components as nicely. So separate of simply meals and dietary supplements and issues that we should always positively all be centered on, I’m curious if there’s every other issues you’re altering or optimizing proper now? For example, I’m ensuring that we’re spending time open air and getting motion each day, which we do anyway, however ensuring that’s a spotlight, similar with daylight, correct hydration, sauna use, which in fact, I do know that you just’re additionally an enormous fan of. Are there different issues that you just’re ramping up or implementing proper now?
Tero: Yeah, I feel it is a nice level. I feel after we journey, for instance, we frequently don’t regulate our habits though our exterior world is altering. So we’ve got this factor the place loads of us don’t have a seasonal routine. We all the time sort of attempt to stay year-round in an identical manner, and I don’t suppose that’s actually the perfect. Clearly, you visited Finland, you see how the variations within the winter and summer time. So we’ve got to stay seasonally and I have a look at it is a lovely factor even when I don’t must at this time. So I attempt to take a look at the exterior world and in addition my inner schedule is like, how is my inner schedule and the way do I want to regulate my habits? And proper now, clearly, the exterior world has gone the wrong way up and issues like immunity are at the next worth. So I’m attempting to regulate my habits to extra be in keeping with the place the world is correct now and the way is my each day routine?
So there’s sure issues I do on a regular basis equivalent to resting to creating certain that I’m not overly stressing my physique anyway, so perhaps further sleep or a nap is one thing very priceless proper now to not…If you happen to push your physique too onerous, you’re additionally placing your immunity in jeopardy extra. So further relaxation is one thing I’m aware of. You talked about the opposite one, which is sweating within the type of motion and within the type of sauna can be fairly, fairly priceless proper now. In order that’s one other manner how one can take away toxins but in addition assist the physique with this lovely sort of delicate hormetic stressors. In order that’s one thing I might be extra aware of now. Individuals love to remain indoors on this present scenario, which is sensible, however simply so you recognize that even the cleanest indoor air won’t be higher than exterior air. So having perhaps your home windows open, doorways open, going for a stroll, no matter you are able to do to get contemporary air is especially priceless. So even well-purified indoor air will in all probability all the time lose to exterior air. So these are issues that I positively bear in mind.
The opposite factor that I’ve been actually ramping up is spices. I feel spices are a few of the most underrated issues in well being and wellness, plus they usually style nice. They’re one thing that everyone can afford, no matter your finances is, take excessive quantities of spices. They’re good in your intestine well being. In addition they comprise these like fairly immune-supporting advantages. So ramping up ginger, turmeric, cinnamon, cardamon, clove, they’re fairly protecting of the physique, and discovering methods how one can begin including spices to each day life is among the best methods. And proper now, within the winter, I anyway add extra spices however given the scenario, I’m identical to doubling down on increasingly spices and numerous peppers is likely to be one thing enjoyable to experiment with. If you wish to sort of get loopy, numerous sort of spicy, scorching peppers is likely to be one thing value exploring.
After which yeah, I’m simply doubling down on my adaptogen mushroom utilization proper now on high of that. However having that seasonal outlook in life, generally, might be going to serve you nicely, not attempting to stay on a regular basis the identical manner and having braveness to go over regular dosages. So no matter is your dosage in vitamin D or vitamin C, this is likely to be a time whenever you go over these regular suggestions and having the braveness…particularly with these water-soluble nutritional vitamins, having the braveness to take larger dosages.
Katie: Yeah, I completely agree. Even issues like vitamin D, I do know usually, I might advocate getting that examined, which is likely to be tough to do with all the present issues happening, or there is likely to be a delay in getting examined however we all know from the analysis, for example, that if in case you have low vitamin D ranges in your physique, you’re truly extra in danger for respiratory issues and all types of issues. And in order that’s one which I’ve been giving my household simply to ensure all of our vitamin D ranges are in good ranges as a result of proper now, we’re not getting as a lot solar as we’d be in the summertime months. Such as you stated, similar with vitamin C, there’s some actually robust information on that for the immune system and that’s one thing that’s water-soluble that we are able to all improve at instances like this.
I additionally love that you just’ve touched on the mindset facet as a result of I feel that’s an space that hopefully we’re all working to optimize our diets and our sleep is a big one, such as you stated, issues like that. But when we’re additionally residing in a state of sympathetic nervous system as a result of we’re overwhelmed and fearful and panicking, that’s additionally actually not good for the immune system and I feel that’s one factor that’s on my thoughts a lot proper now’s simply the thought, that encouragement of taking a deep breath, nonetheless having gratitude, nonetheless discovering calm, nonetheless specializing in those who we love and neighborhood and mindset even when the following few weeks proceed to get just a little bit loopy however preserving these issues, supporting one another inside no matter manner we’re capable of at this level, and simply nonetheless specializing in the gratitude and the great. And I do know that’s usually your mindset as nicely and that you just proceed to stay in a constructive mindset via this as nicely. Any mindset suggestions as we face all this uncertainty proper now?
Tero: Yeah, truly, a pal of mine was asking like, “How are you so calm on this entire scenario?” Like, I’m going to get to the massages at some Asian therapeutic massage place, and he was like, “How are you so calm about it?” And I used to be saying, nicely, A, I handle my immunity on a regular basis so I really feel fairly assured about that half. The opposite half is I do know that just like the significance of your thoughts and the way that additionally impacts your physiology, for instance, your endocrine system should you’re consistently in a mode of worry, in battle or flight, how that truly decreases sleep high quality, hurts your immunity. So there’s a compounding impact of the thoughts that impacts our stress, sleep, and immunity, in order that’s why I feel it’s so, so priceless.
And simply to make it ultra-specific is, for instance, individuals are proper now obsessive about washing their palms and notably hand sanitizers. And I feel this may probably backfire should you overdo this. To not say that good hygiene shouldn’t be vital, it’s, however should you’re consistently sanitizing your palms with harsh alcohol or hand sanitizers, it might probably have a fairly large affect in your pores and skin and your biome in your pores and skin, and that’s why I feel, like, cleaning soap is so wonderful due to these, sort of, like, friendlier fat to our pores and skin and utilizing fat, generally, is an efficient tip in these tough instances. Simply the fixed fear about washing your palms will double down on cortisol that can additional then harm your sleep high quality, and poor sleep high quality will decrease your immunity. It’s a vicious circle.
So I feel this second is a good alternative to follow your Zen habits and follow issues like gratitude turns into much more vital. So when issues are loopy and looks as if it’s been a tough 2020 thus far, what are you able to do to be grateful, what are you able to be grateful of? And discovering these moments of magnificence in your life proper now, after which should you’re actually confused, including follow like meditation, or what I really like is chilly publicity and breathwork. So perhaps a breathwork session can truly assist mitigate a few of that stress that you’ve. However simply so you recognize is that taking precautions is wise however stressing about it will harm you greater than helps you.
So it is a nice time to search out gratitude and pleasure and sweetness round you and to not dwell on worry that a lot. And it’s clearly simpler stated than performed and there’s loads of considerations about us, our well being, and our family members, however realizing that management what you may management and also you don’t all the time management what occurs round you however you management the response it has on you. That’s simply one thing each will assist, and in addition happiness, it’s good to be aware and meditate just a little bit on.
Katie: I completely agree. I’m an enormous fan of loads of the stoic philosophers and a phrase that comes up lots with them is “amor fati,” which suggests mainly love your destiny or love what’s, and I feel that’s straightforward to do when issues are straightforward or good or affluent or instances are straightforward, and I feel that’s much more vital to do at instances like this when issues are unsure or appear loopy or uncontrolled. And in order that’s been one thing I’ve tried to give attention to. I really like your tips on respiratory and meditation and chilly publicity. Actually, I do know not everybody has entry to saunas or chilly plunges however you are able to do loads of that at house in your bathe and your bathtub, and respiratory we are able to all do in all places.
And identical to you stated, give attention to preserving stress ranges down and preserving give attention to the constructive. I feel that goes such a good distance towards staying wholesome and never panicking and realizing that for many individuals who even when we get the virus, hopefully, it could be very uncomfortable however our immune system will be capable of deal with it, particularly if we are able to optimize all these components. Such as you stated, relaxation, get daylight, get methods to assist our immune system. Till then, I do know that whilst an organization, you guys are ensuring that you just’re maintaining with merchandise and getting issues out to individuals, all of those immune-supporting merchandise that you just guys carry. So for anybody who’s new to you guys or to your merchandise, the place would you advocate them beginning, particularly proper now with all of this happening, with attempting mushroom merchandise?
Tero: Yeah. So for me, the massive factor has all the time been compliance. Well being and wellness, each you and I in all probability do 17 issues each hour for our well being, proper? I do know whenever you journey, you’re just a little pharmacy your self with all these dietary supplements. And if any person who’s new to it appears to be like at that, that may really feel very overwhelming, you’re like, “Wow, that’s loads of stuff you do,” and it doesn’t must be difficult. So there may be an 80-20 rule to well being and wellness as nicely and we do the remaining as a result of we stay the life-style, we take pleasure in it. But when there’s some issues the place you begin…I all the time advocate first upgrading an current ritual versus attempting to invent a brand new ritual, and it’s only a extra sustainable manner of enhancing and upgrading your well being and wellness.
So for us, an enormous a part of the place most individuals begin is our espresso merchandise that additionally embody, by the way in which, the chaga mushroom that I discussed for immunity. So taking a mushroom espresso, both an on the spot espresso or floor espresso format might be the place most individuals begin. The mushroom espresso provides you a traditional espresso expertise that tastes just like your cup of espresso nevertheless it doesn’t provide the jitters or the heartburn. It’s sort of extra comfy in your intestine. After which on high of it, with out even fascinated with it, you get this immune assist on high of the deal. If you happen to don’t drink espresso, we additionally make issues like scorching chocolate, that is likely to be a great start line.
And we simply try to take issues like skincare, protein powders, different issues that you just would possibly already be doing in your well being and attempt to discover methods how you can make it cleaner and higher for you, you recognize, not that completely different from what you’re constructing on the private care facet. It’s like, okay, you’re going to brush your tooth anyway, let’s just remember to’re doing that in a aware manner, and the identical what we’re doing with espresso, tea, cocoa, protein, skincare is simply attempting to improve your current merchandise and rituals by containing the world’s most nutrient-dense, you recognize, substances and not one of the dangerous, dangerous issues that usually get included in these merchandise that aren’t obligatory. In order that’s, sort of, it. So espresso is, for most individuals, the place to begin or one thing like a morning smoothie with our protein powder.
Katie: I find it irresistible. And I ought to have talked about it earlier within the episode, however I do have a particular touchdown web page with you guys at foursigmatic.com/wellnessmama and I do know you’ve additionally graciously given us a reduction code, wellnessmama, to avoid wasting 15%. And like I discussed, these are merchandise which might be very a lot a part of my each day routine and a part of my life and my household’s life usually so I’m an enormous fan of the lion’s mane espresso within the morning and I try this many mornings, or your matcha, after which all through the day, particularly proper now, I’m loading up on the chaga and cordyceps and lion’s mane, after which virtually each night earlier than mattress, my husband I drink reishi collectively.
So I really feel like not simply are we buddies however you’re, via your organization, so, a lot part of my each day life and I’m grateful to have entry to those merchandise, proper now particularly, with the added give attention to immune assist.
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Tero: Yeah, so we launched our first three merchandise. Now we have a superfood serum that provides you extra glow. We use actual fruits which might be anyway good for pores and skin internally and externally equivalent to olive oil and avocado oil. So once more, fat are your pal each internally and topically. So if you wish to get that, you recognize, island pores and skin, avocado is a good supply, that Mediterranean pores and skin, olive has been used for a very long time, after which we add good oils such a grapefruit, frankincense, and there’s no preservatives so we use pure issues like honeysuckle and the frankincense to offer stability to the product. So a serum, which is a reasonably inexpensive natural serum, $55 for a bottle, and it is available in Miron glass, all our merchandise are available Miron glass. If you happen to’re not aware of Miron glass, it’s like the very best glass to stop daylight from getting into it. So whenever you use these good oils, it’s vital to guarantee that daylight doesn’t penetrate or oxidize these. However the serum might be the place most individuals begin on the skincare facet.
We even have a face masks that I discussed, nevertheless it additionally doubles as a scorching chocolate. It’s a powdered face masks that purifies the pores and skin. It accommodates these mushrooms like chaga and reishi, adaptogens like ashwagandha and gotu kola, and it is available in these handy particular person packets, you may simply simply journey with them or on the go, simply add just a little little bit of water, put it in your face. And you too can eat it and it tastes like brownie batter. However it’s full of wonderful cleaning issues like ashwagandha, reishi, but in addition bentonite clay that’s sort of cooling but cleaning for the pores and skin.
After which we’ve got a physique butter, which is the Swiss military knife of our skincare merchandise at this level. So you need to use that in your nails and your hair. Once more, it is available in Miron glass and it makes use of issues like cacao, like sort of natural plant butters and oils, so simply cacao butter. It has natural mango seed butter, which is wonderful. Once more, olive oil, walnut oil, so these wholesome fatty acids is one thing your pores and skin can use and what’s cool concerning the physique butter is that you could additionally…I exploit it after I journey to make a butter espresso. So I simply take just a little little bit of my physique butter and put in a cup and revenue. So these are actually so clear that you could eat them. They’re meant topically however if you wish to put them in your physique, they’re made out of meals.
Katie: I find it irresistible. I really like that. I’ve tried all of them and so they’re superior and I positively would advocate them. I’m, such as you, an enormous fan of not placing something in your physique that you just wouldn’t be prepared to eat or put in your physique, and that was my focus with the toothpaste and hair care as nicely. So I’ll make sure that there are hyperlinks to the whole lot we’ve talked about within the present notes at wellnesmama.fm. And naturally, should you’re listening, the hyperlink will probably be there but in addition make sure that to take a look at foursigmatic.com/wellnessmama to get the low cost on any of those merchandise. I simply stocked majorly up on a number of months’ value of all of them in case we’d like further, and it’s onerous to get them so I’m nicely stocked and I might encourage you guys too as nicely. However Tero, thanks for the time at this time and for all of the work you place into these merchandise and into training and into simply spreading positivity on this planet.
Tero: Thanks, Katie, and thanks for having me on, and thanks for additionally doing the training work you do. I come throughout individuals on a regular basis who comply with you and stated you’ve made an affect on their life and clearly, it’s a really tough and worrying time so taking a typical sense method to well being, wellness, and immunity is so priceless. So thanks for the work you do as nicely.
Katie: Effectively, thanks. And due to all of you for listening and for becoming a member of us at this time. We’re so grateful that you just did and we’re grateful for you sharing your most precious asset, which is your time, and I hope that you just all keep wholesome and secure and calm throughout this loopy time and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the following episode of the “Wellness Mama” podcast.
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