Balancing Parenting and Entrepreneurship (& Teaching Kids Financial Skills) with Gordy Bal

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Howdy and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode is a few matter that’s close to and pricey to my coronary heart, which is balancing parenting and entrepreneurship and educating our youngsters monetary expertise. And I’ve talked about this slightly bit prior to now, however on this episode, I’m so excited to get to go deep on this with my good friend Gordy, who’s the creator of the e book, The New Millionaire’s Playbook, in addition to the founding father of the Aware Thought Revolution, which is ctr.com. And he’s now a sought-after advisor, speaker, mentor, and coach to entrepreneurs and traders, in addition to a dad of three. And I really like that on this episode, we received to speak about integrating no matter we do for profession and enterprise with household life, quite than compartmentalizing these, how you can put together our youngsters for monetary success, how you can put together ourselves for that, and the internal shifts that we are able to make that make a profound distinction in each of those areas. We additionally discuss tech use and display screen time with youngsters, how you can assist them develop a wholesome mindset for all of this stuff from a younger age, and a lot extra. So, let’s be part of Gordy and soar into the dialog. Gordy, welcome again. I’m so excited we get to have one other dialog.

Gordy: Me too. Thanks for having me once more.

Katie: Properly, I’ll hyperlink to our different episode for you guys who haven’t heard it but, which will get to go deep on lots of matters associated to what you name the brand new millionaire. And I really like that episode. On this one, I might love to speak slightly bit extra as a result of most people listening are mother and father. I do know that you’re as properly. You might have three youngsters. I might love to speak about balancing entrepreneurship, no matter we’re doing within the monetary realm with parenting. And likewise, how can we assist our kids construct a strong basis of monetary expertise in life? And like I mentioned, I do know that you’ve direct expertise with this as a busy dad your self, however what recommendation do it’s important to different entrepreneurs who’re in that development section, striving to construct a enterprise, and likewise making an attempt to maintain household as a giant precedence of their lives?

Gordy: Yeah, I feel for me, the most important shift was integration and actually integrating my mission the place it’s not separate. Like I’ve seen lots of entrepreneurs who’re mother and father, and so they type of compartmentalize, and it’s like, okay, I’m sporting my enterprise hat now, and now I’m sporting my household hat. And that’s actually laborious for me. And so, what I do is to me, my mission is my mission. So, whether or not it’s enterprise or household, all of it comes collectively. And so, a part of what that appears like is, you already know, once I’m happening talking excursions or going to facilitate workshops or going to investor conferences, like I’m having one in all my, not less than one in all my youngsters with me and so they’re a part of it, and we’re strategizing, and we’re speaking about it. So that they’re half, like, they’re a part of the method, and it simply makes it a lot extra enjoyable as a result of frankly, and I discuss this lots, is like the college system, you already know this, the college system is just not actually equipping our youngsters in one of the simplest ways potential. I imply, it’s set as much as create manufacturing facility staff and rats for a rat race. And I feel like, you already know, if we simply absolutely depend on the college system to assist our youngsters develop into thriving souls on this world, then I really feel like we’re doing a disservice. So for me, like, you already know, my mission is to speed up the evolution of human consciousness. And so, whether or not I’m doing that by my investments, by my companies, by my household, by my kids, prefer it’s all the identical factor. And in order that’s one of many issues that I’m at all times, you already know, filtering for is like, does this match inside my mission? So, I’d say that’s like the most important factor for me is the mixing and never compartmentalizing it.

And likewise, together with your loved ones, together with your youngsters or your companion, in business-related conversations to the diploma that they’re . And this can be a little edgy to say, however I might say that if it’s important to have your enterprise and your loved ones so separated, I might ask you to query if your enterprise is actually nourishing you, and if your enterprise is actually an expression of your soul, and is it really a mission? As a result of if it’s not, then it’s laborious, and it’s laborious. And, like, if your loved ones doesn’t care or involved in what you’re constructing and creating, I might say that’s a chance so that you can replicate and see, you already know, how do you wish to, you already know, have your soul essence expressed by your enterprise.

Katie: I really like that shift. I additionally convey not less than one in all my youngsters with me to many occasions and even to board conferences. And I’ve achieved that for a very long time. And it’s, I by no means stop to be amazed by how extremely succesful youngsters are of understanding a lot from such a younger age and the way that turns into a part of their understanding and vocabulary a lot sooner than it was for me. And it’s actually enjoyable to see them now at older ages beginning their very own companies and coming into that world and the way they’re so significantly better geared up than I used to be as an grownup even a lot much less at their ages. And I do suppose for youths, too, it’s a bonus. And I inform my youngsters this on a regular basis, It’s a bonus to know that earlier and to enter that world even whilst you’re nonetheless a child as a result of it’s much less widespread. So, you really have already got form of a leg up as a result of it’s much less anticipated. And particularly if they’ve a few of these foundational expertise that they study from us modeling them, it’s actually fascinating to look at.

And such as you, I spotted when my oldest was coming into kindergarten age that not one of the present faculty choices adequately put together youngsters for what a really unsure grownup future may appear like as a result of my job didn’t exist once I was coming into faculty. And so, once I labored backwards of how can we adequately put together them for no matter their future may be, I ended up with a way more first ideas expertise up versus information down strategy, which fortunately, the web makes lots simpler than it could have been 20 years in the past. And so, I really like that you’ve that focus along with your youngsters as properly.

And I additionally love that you simply talked concerning the mission-driven element of enterprise as a result of I feel this may be the lacking hyperlink for lots of people who don’t really feel fulfilled by the work that they’re doing. And infrequently, it looks like small shifts in our thought course of or in how we’re integrating with a enterprise or perhaps a job could make an amazing distinction, even when we don’t shift our complete profession or shift into a wholly completely different path. Typically doing form of like we talked about in our first episode, that internal audit of our ideas and our mission and our motivation can assist us to search out a lot extra gratitude and success within the work we’re doing, even when it doesn’t drastically change. However have you ever observed that with all of the individuals you’ve labored with as properly?

Gordy: Yeah, it’s yeah, I imply, this has been so large for for the work like so, you already know, a part of my skilled life is I run a enterprise capital fund, and I put money into firms which are which are mission-driven. And it’s been alarming to see even the leaders of mission-driven firms are are doing the work on themselves. They’re not, they’re not really, you already know, excavating their very own internal shadow and demons to actually replicate their, their course of, their deeper course of. And so, what I what I’ve observed is that their enterprise turns into a byproduct of their very own consciousness. And so, a part of my work with them is to assist them join deeper to their soul, after which, you already know, do among the deeper consciousness work in order that the issues they’re making an attempt to unravel of their enterprise, if you happen to’re making an attempt to unravel the issues with the identical consciousness they use to create them, how do you count on a special outcome? It’s like that well-known Einstein quote, we are able to’t clear up the issues with the identical pondering we use to create them.

And so, you already know, this, it was humorous, I used to be working with one entrepreneur, tremendous, like pushed, extremely pushed, A kind like extremely profitable, however he was having huge issues. And, and, you already know, whenever you, you already know, each stage of development in an organization, you face new challenges. And he was at some extent the place he was dealing with challenges, each within the enterprise and in his private life along with his household. And so, as we’re sitting there, and I may see like his face, like his brow was crunching up, and he’s like, actually, like his, his physiology was like in a really constricted state, as a result of he’s making an attempt to unravel this downside. And I simply paused for a second. And I mentioned, what does your soul need? And it was like his mind exploded. And I mentioned, and he’s like me, I’m like, when was the final time you related along with your soul? And I mentioned, do it’s important to e book an appointment along with your soul by Calendly? Or does your EA must e book an appointment along with your soul? And he’s simply, he began laughing, and he had in his destiny, and his entire physiology shifted as a result of he realized there’s this entire deeper facet of himself that he’s not tapping into, and whenever you’re not related to your soul, your, your instinct isn’t absolutely on-line. So, you’re simply making an attempt to make use of your cognitive skills to unravel issues, however your cognition solely has a lot bandwidth. And if it’s at all times being bombarded by the unfavourable ideas and the shortage ideas anyway, you’re, you’re combating an uphill battle. So because of this, like, I’ve realized, you already know, the whole lot could be a religious course of, particularly enterprise. And if you happen to deal with it like that, then your enterprise turns into way more than a enterprise. It turns into a mission. It turns into one thing a lot higher than your self and then you definitely take pleasure in it. After which it’s like a recreation, and then you definitely’re additionally enhancing and elevating your self. And by doing so your enterprise grows and shifts and adjustments. And that is how, once more, like household turns into part of it as a result of it’s all interwoven into the tapestry of your existence.

Katie: And I do know that as a dad, you’re additionally very centered on serving to your youngsters on this journey and serving to them have a robust framework from a younger age. So, I might love to listen to any ways in which you’re form of doing this deeper work along with your youngsters or making it a foundational a part of how they perform on the planet from the very starting. As a result of I additionally really feel like our youngsters are a few of our biggest academics. And after we mannequin for them, we regularly study the teachings in a a lot deeper method ourselves. So how do you combine this into your loved ones tradition? What sort of conversations do you have got along with your youngsters round this type of stuff?

Gordy: Yeah, so there’s a number of issues. One factor I’ll share that’s been actually helpful for us is we felt lots of pressure with screens and know-how with our youngsters, and we had been noticing that they had been beginning to actually develop into overly consumed by their laptops or the tablets. And so, what we did, a pair issues we realized. One on simply on a well being stage was we realized that if we really offset their as a substitute as a result of as a substitute of taking the screens away from them, which I feel is just not the best reply, however we there’s a pair issues we did, one is we offset their display screen time with nature as a result of nature has a pure method of recalibrating the nervous system, particularly with the unfavourable ion vitality from like being within the ocean or seaside or forest. So simply serving to them even perceive that as a result of, as a result of they love gaming too. And there’s this one recreation. It’s a it’s I feel it’s a Mario recreation. And in it, one of many characters, he goes, “Detrimental ions go,” is what the character says. And so they and so, for me, it was that good alternative to clarify what are unfavourable ions. How do they assist your physique? Let’s go get unfavourable ions.

After which so, after we’re doing that, that opens up the area for dialogue and exploration. After which what I’m capable of do is, I’ll present them what I’m engaged on in enterprise, and I’ll get their suggestions. What do you suppose? How do you suppose this could? And it’s loopy how sensible their concepts are. It’s like, it’s a method higher than a few of my very own workforce would have. So, I feel after which honoring them, honoring them for his or her concepts and respecting, respecting them and giving them that confidence for themselves.

And what was so cool for me was, oh, after which yeah, what was actually cool is, you already know, I only a couple weeks in the past, I used to be doing a keynote in Toronto with our mutual good friend Jim Kwik. And, and my, my 11-year-old son Jackson was on that journey with me, and he was within the viewers and, and properly, one was actually cool. He noticed me do a keynote and he mentioned, and he actually cherished it. He mentioned, Daddy, your discuss was the very best, which is actually cool to listen to. However then I may see that he was actually admiring Jim as a result of, you already know, Jim has, you already know, he’s labored with the Elon Musk. He’s labored with all of the Marvel characters. So, and, and, you already know, they’re large into comics, after which it was cool as a result of he after he was like, he was type of like, you already know, nervous to wish to join with Jim, and he’s like, I wish to ask him one thing. And I used to be like, okay, properly, come on, let’s go ask him. He’s like, I don’t know if I wish to, and I used to be like, Jim, Jackson needs to ask you one thing. After which, clearly, Jim’s such a candy man. He’s like, what can I enable you to with? And Jackson asks him, he’s like as a result of you already know, Jim is the mind man.

And so, and Jackson has his mind, like, you already know, he’s, he’s cognitively good. However generally, that’s additionally his, his kryptonite. And he mentioned, Jim, how can what’s one factor I can do to assist my assist use my mind higher? And Jim goes, a number of instances a day, simply ask your self, is that this good for my mind? Or is that this dangerous for my mind? And, and it was so cool to see Jackson get that data as a result of now, ever since then, he’s making use of it, and he’s utilizing it. And he’s even in his personal, like, ideations of whether or not he’s doing a college challenge, or whether or not he’s taking part in a recreation, or whether or not he’s doing analysis, I can see he’s caught that filter. And never solely does he have that filter for himself, however now he has that filter for others. And he, so now a part of, and he informed me, he’s like, Daddy, I feel I wish to be an entrepreneur, I wish to clear up issues. And so, as a result of he. due to this publicity that he’s gotten. And so these are among the ways in which you already know, we’re holding area and having these conversations, and likewise not being connected. I feel that’s one of many issues generally we as mother and father do is we’ve these attachments that we would like our youngsters to be these grand, wonderful, epic people that, you already know, should meet our expectations. And I feel that’s, that’s, that’s loopy, too. It’s similar to, you already know, honor them for who they’re, the distinctive stardust beings that they’re, and, you already know, unconditionally love them. And whenever you’re not unconditionally loving them, what’s it that you simply’re projecting onto them? What’s the facet of your self that you simply haven’t but discovered to like? As a result of you already know, that’s a chance to see how they’re educating us that we’re nonetheless, we nonetheless have to do our work.

In order that’s type of the, you already know, the connection and we’re at all times, you already know, asking them like what how questions like we talked about in our earlier podcast as properly. You already know, we, we’d be as aware as potential to not ask, like, why did you do this? As a result of whenever you as quickly as you body a query, like, why did you do this, you’re already making them flawed. You’re already making them defensive, and so they they their programming begins working as like, properly, one thing have to be flawed for me to now I’ve to consider. However whereas, whereas if you happen to ask them one thing like, oh, you already know, how did that really feel? Or what are three issues that labored about that? Or what’s one thing that you simply wish to have occur? Now unexpectedly, it’s extra of an inquiry, curiosity-based dialog versus, like, you already know, an emotionally triggered one.

Katie: I feel that’s an unimaginable tip that you simply simply gave and the way you talked about gratitude as properly. That’s a observe we’ve adopted as a household is at dinner, we’ll typically go round and identify three issues we’re grateful for simply to type of give them that lens of trying by life all through the day of, like, what am I grateful for? As a result of, as you mentioned, that’s the vitality of getting already obtained. And so, after we exist in a state of gratitude, initially, we find yourself being lots happier typically, however I really like serving to them hold that as their focus all through the day. And I additionally love what you mentioned about attachments and the issues that we challenge onto them as a result of I really feel like I had unimaginable mother and father. And I additionally felt lots of stress, particularly in academic-related issues rising up. And so, I used to be making an attempt to be very conscious of that with my youngsters. And I feel so many parenting struggles could possibly be solved by merely remembering always that they’re every their very own infinite autonomous beings. And that’s one in all my first ideas of parenting is they aren’t mine, they don’t belong to me, they aren’t reflections of me, they aren’t mini-versions of me, they’re every their very own infinite autonomous people. And I’m not right here to assist decide who they’re. I’m right here to assist them uncover who they’re. And so, I really like that you simply introduced that up.

Gordy: I do know from writing, I’m penning this down, infinite autonomous people. I really like that.

Katie: And I feel if we simply even hold that prime of thoughts in how we work together with them, it’s not us because the authority telling them what to do as somebody who doesn’t have authority. They’re already autonomous. And that doesn’t imply we don’t information them. However I really like your strategy in ask good questions, assist them study to ask good questions. And I feel if we construct that connection in a robust method, it removes the necessity for lots of the facility wrestle and the issues that lots of mother and father run into. So, I really like that you’ve this ethos woven all through your enterprise, woven all through your loved ones tradition, that these issues are intertwined. They’re for me as properly. And I feel the extra individuals which are in a position to do this, such as you mentioned, we’re shifting on this very stunning acutely aware path as a society as an entire. And I imagine strongly that it begins with every of us and with our households. So, I really like that you simply’re bringing that message.

Are there some other key takeaways associated to the e book that I do know we talked about extra within the first episode or to household tradition and parenting that you’d love to go away individuals with on this episode?

Gordy: Sure, however I’ve a query for you first on the gratitude. So, we’ve carried out the gratitude as properly. So, each day they write three issues that they’re grateful for. But when that is what I haven’t discovered how you can help, however the issues that they write are be like pizza, video video games, timber. And so, I’m comfortable that they’re entering into the observe of gratitude, however I’m noticing that it’s virtually like they’re… and perhaps it’s simply me judging what they’re being grateful for, so it’s my work once more. However I’m curious, like, yeah, is there one thing that you simply’ve observed or that you simply do to assist them actually get deeper into the gratitude versus like issues? You already know what I imply?

Katie: Yeah, generally I’ll body that in three, generally it’ll be three individuals you’re particularly grateful for right this moment. However typically, it’ll simply be three belongings you’re grateful for with three deep explanation why and including that phrase deep. And it’s enjoyable as a result of youngsters join the dots in such wonderful ways in which I might not essentially suppose to. So, they could nonetheless say they’re grateful for pizza, however then it might need a deeper purpose of as a result of we at all times eat pizza collectively as a household, and I really feel related or I feel it helps them like join, like the place’s the sensation beneath simply the gratitude? Like what else does this connect with inside my soul or inside my life? And I feel youngsters are such wonderful pure sample recognizers and that they join dots in distinctive methods. And I feel that’s simply a straightforward tip to assist them search for patterns in different places.

Gordy: That’s good. Okay, I’m gonna add that to, to report again. Yeah, so I assume the opposite factor that I might say is what’s been, what’s actually labored properly for me is tapping into my very own internal baby with them and taking part in and never taking shit so critically, and actually letting my very own playful, joyful model come out. As a result of, as you already know, we in some way after we develop into adults, we simply begin taking issues too critically. And so, the extra we are able to let go of the seriousness and, and fall again into play, it’s, it simply creates such a greater connection. And I observed that anytime that, you already know, I’m discovering there to be pressure, it’s simply it’s as a result of I’m being too critical. I’m taking it method too critical. And so, if I simply remind myself to be like, properly, what if I used to be 10 proper now or 12 or 13? What, how would I be? And it’s like, it instantly shifts it.

So, I’d say use the chance to actually faucet into your individual internal baby and have enjoyable. Like, take pleasure in these moments, take pleasure in life, like play this entire factor is only a recreation anyway. So, play it to the very best of your skill to have enjoyable, have that means, have function, and generate abundance by laughter and curiosity. That’s yeah, that’s a giant reminder I inform myself each day, like play and have enjoyable.

Katie: I like it. I feel that’s an ideal place to wrap up for right this moment, however hopefully, we are able to do extra episodes sooner or later. However I’m extraordinarily grateful for you and for all that you simply’ve shared right this moment. Thanks a lot for being right here, Gordy.

Gordy: Sure, my pleasure. Thanks.

Katie: And thanks as at all times to all of you for listening and sharing your most precious assets, your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us each right this moment. We’re so grateful that you simply did. And I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of the Wellness Mama podcast.

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