The Greatest Biohack is Feeling Your Feelings (& How to Do It) with Raj Jana

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Whats up, and welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode goes into the psychological and emotional well being facet with the subject of the best biohack is feeling your emotions and really try this. And I’m right here with a pal of mine, Raj Jana, who’s a former engineer, a 40 below 40 entrepreneur, media host. He constructed a espresso firm, after which a number of years in the past, offered a big a part of his shares and went on his personal private journey of transformation that led to his present undertaking, which is named Liber8, which is L-I-B-E-R and the quantity eight, which is a change firm that helps individuals use precision emotional analytics to enhance psychological well being outcomes. And we discuss that in the present day. However we additionally actually discuss in regards to the nervous system facet and develop into conscious of emotional triggers, the quantifiable information that he’s serving to individuals have round that, and then use that information to your benefit to rewrite a few of your inner tales and scripts. And since sharing my story with trauma therapeutic and emotional restoration, I get this query so much. So I’ve been looking for actionable and sensible and quantifiable instruments that may reliably assist individuals hopefully have a shorter journey on that path than I did. And I really feel like we realized a number of nice ideas and instruments from Raj in the present day. So let’s be part of him now. Raj, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here.

Raj: It’s so nice to see you, Katie. Thanks a lot for having me.

Katie: Effectively, it’s at all times thrilling once I get to have a podcast dialog with a real-life pal, and particularly one who’s doing wonderful work that’s tremendous related, I really feel like, to the listeners and dovetails with my very own story of, as individuals know, doing all the bodily well being issues actually by spreadsheets and dealing with each physician. And it wasn’t till I addressed the internal facet that every one of these issues grew to become efficient, and I used to be capable of really heal. And since sharing that a part of my journey, I’ve gotten so many questions from individuals who need to have the ability to discover their very own solutions in that method. And I do know that what I did immediately shouldn’t be going to work in the very same method, in the very same order for them. And I do know that the framework of that and that the being keen to go inside is a vital piece for basically everybody. So for just a little little bit of background context, I do know you have got carried out many issues to assist the world in some ways and that you just now are doing a little unimaginable work on this house. So what led you right here from all of the earlier issues that you just’ve carried out?

Raj: Effectively, my first enterprise was a profitable espresso firm. And some years in the past, I offered a giant portion of that. And I began happening a religious awakening path, if you happen to would, simply because I spotted that I didn’t actually know love myself. Let’s simply put it clearly. I used to be working actually laborious, overworking. I used to be in a nine-year relationship. And I actually wasn’t current within the relationship. I used to be, I had a number of attachment wounding. We have been entering into a number of fights and triggers, and I used to be simply in like this actually harassed, chaotic state. And as I began sort of happening this path of psychological and emotional well-being, I obtained to a spot in our in my final relationship the place like issues have been simply breaking. Like we might begin to we might attempt to be intimate, and we have been beginning to have intimacy challenges. Like there was simply a lot occurring that my physique, my physique was bodily, actually responding to all the stress that I used to be carrying. And all the trauma that I used to be carrying beneath, my below in my thoughts, my physique, and my psyche.

And at that time, I remembered on my podcast, I really invited out a hypnotherapist to form of discuss to me about, you understand, what is going on in my thoughts? What is going on in my physique? Why do I really feel a lot stress? Why do I really feel so insecure? Why do I really feel all of those beliefs round not feeling worthy? Like, the place are these coming from? And as we began working collectively, it grew to become very abundantly clear that there was only a lot beneath the hood. There was so many beliefs that have been getting in the best way of me actually experiencing wholesome intimacy. There have been so many childhood traumas round, you understand, my price and my self-worth that was getting in the best way of me with the ability to join deeply with my with my former accomplice. And all of these awarenesses then sort of opened up a complete Pandora’s field of like, oh, my God. OK. Like, there’s a number of Raj work that I have to do.

So I obtained out of that relationship, after which I went on this deep path of doing all of the therapies, the hypnotherapies, the several types of modalities, the several types of cognitive behavioral remedy. I used to be working with coaches, and I used to be simply happening a really loopy route. And I feel perhaps we have been speaking earlier, such as you had a really comparable route. You have been attempting all of the issues, and also you had a really it was your path. And I used to be sort of simply happening that path, and I spotted how complicated that was. Like, how do I do know what instruments are greatest for me? How do I do know what modalities are greatest for me? How do I do know what’s really on the root of all the triggers that I’m experiencing? And the way do I do know what approaches are going to be greatest for me? There was no method for me to seek out that.

And that’s when my companions and I got here collectively, and we began engaged on our emotional lab reviews and began placing collectively applications that taught individuals form of navigate this very complicated world of psychological and emotional well-being and be your personal co-pilot on the journey and produce again the extent of consciousness to what’s occurring with my ideas, emotions, and feelings and actually discover ways to be human. As a result of I feel these talent units of studying to manage your nervous system, studying to know what instruments are greatest for you, like, these are issues we are able to study. And I want I might have realized this as a child. However sadly, that wasn’t the case. And so, I needed to study it as an grownup. And so now that’s why we do what we do. We wish others to, you understand, simply study these fundamental abilities of do the internal work and go inside. As a result of it’s, to me, one of many biggest biohacks that exist.

Katie: Yeah, effectively, such as you, I want I had realized this stuff as a child. And we’ll get to do a complete follow-up episode on the parenting angle of this, which I feel is equally or extra vital. However earlier than we soar into that, I like that as a result of I typically ask in prep for these interviews, if you happen to needed to give a TED Discuss in every week, what wouldn’t it be on and why? And your reply was how the best biohack is feeling your emotions. And I feel that is pivotal vital. I’ve seen this play out in my very own life. And such as you, I had fairly the journey of considering I used to be fully superb and had handled all of my traumas and emotions and was, in fact, at all times working from a totally rational perspective till I unraveled a few of that and realized that there have been deeper layers. However I really feel like this piece is completely key, even from a bodily well being perspective. And I really feel such as you actually seize that by saying the best biohack is to really feel your emotions. However are you able to elaborate on that and what which means and perhaps the place to even start? As a result of I can think about from having been there earlier than, that appears overwhelming and likewise perhaps at instances not possible for somebody who’s not at the moment in that place.

Raj: Yeah, so in my eyes, you’ll be able to’t develop wholesome meals or meals that’s extraordinarily nutritious in soil that’s not, proper? So I like to consider our nervous programs as this like large, so it’s just like the soil of our physique. It’s like every little thing is linked from the nervous system. Proper. Our immune programs, our digestion, our every little thing. And so once I once I consider nervous system well being, it’s larger than psychological well being. You recognize, psychological well being could be very like, okay, prefer it’s my ideas, it’s every little thing up right here. However then, you’ll be able to’t simply consider that as like every little thing, as a result of if you happen to simply consider psychological well being, you’re forgetting your emotional well being. And if you happen to overlook your emotional well being, which means you’re, however that’s not full both as a result of then there’s your relational well being. And there’s all these completely different features of well being that create I feel the soil, which permits for wholesome functioning to exist.

And once I take a look at the biohacking house, like, you understand, there’s all these wonderful instruments and devices and all these completely different dietary supplements and all these various things that we are able to do to enhance our well being. But when the soil is sure, if there’s a number of vitality that’s simply coiled up in our our bodies, whether or not it’s from present life stressors or from previous life stressors that by no means really obtained handled, in the event that they’re simply saved within the physique, it’s going to be very laborious for any of the opposite therapies to truly work. And so, one of many quickest ways in which we have now present in our communities and simply from my very own journey and from speaking to specialists and other people within the area to launch a few of this vitality is to develop a wholesome relationship with our feelings. And constructing that wholesome relationship with our feelings is past simply feeling our emotions, proper? So feeling your emotions is one factor of that. However earlier than you’ll be able to really feel your emotions, you must form of, perceive your emotions and know, and know what they’re. Like when you have got anger, as an alternative of being like, I’m an offended particular person, studying to create house between you and the anger and say, no, I’m experiencing anger proper now.

After which there’s studying the talents to truly sit with that anger while not having to do something with it, which might be very uncomfortable for lots of people. However that is the place now we’re constructing this lesson, these talent units of emotional intelligence, emotional consciousness. And as you construct these talent units, you finally get to a spot the place feeling your emotions finally ends up being the best releasing software that you could have. Proper. Like as a result of considered one of my greatest fears, I used to hate feeling my emotions, actually hated it as a result of I assumed that feeling my emotions meant that I might get caught in them. Like if I used to be crying, I didn’t wish to cry as a result of I used to be afraid that by going into my disappointment, I might simply get caught in my disappointment and I’d by no means be capable to get out. And over time, what I began studying was as I allowed myself to cry, and I gave myself the house. Now, that is the place this might in all probability be a, I suppose it’s a whole podcast episode in some methods, like really feel your emotions as a complete, one other sort of physique of conversations that we are able to have. However to me, as you get into that zone of 1, being attentive to your feelings after which giving your self the permission to specific them nonetheless they must be expressed. So if it’s disappointment, like expressing them with a great cry or perhaps transferring the vitality with like dancing or music, no matter software that you just or perhaps any of the instruments, whether or not it’s hypnotherapy or mindfulness or breathwork, there’s a number of instruments that may really unlock your emotional physique.

However finally, it’s really simply coming all the way down to giving your self the permission to really feel and giving your self the permission to be messy if you want to be messy and giving your self the house and discovering neighborhood and people to sort of maintain you as you’re studying to try this. That was sort of my journey. However to me, as you try this over time, I’ve discovered personally {that a} good cry beats any biohack I may presumably discover since you’re really releasing the sure vitality. And that’s how I like to consider it. It’s like this vitality that lives in our system, this stress, lives within the physique, and the physique’s method of releasing it’s by means of our emotions and thru our feelings. And as we bodily launch it by means of crying, by means of screaming, we then create a wholesome relationship with the physique, simply sort of purging issues that aren’t meant to be within the physique. In order that’s one thing new can take its place, like pleasure or peace or gratitude, extra of those different constructive states. So I’ll pause there as a result of I mentioned so much.

Katie: Yeah, I feel you touched on a number of actually vital issues that we’re going to get to elaborate on. I feel that piece about studying to form of audit that internal converse and ask higher questions internally, develop into conscious slowly of our nervous system’s response to issues. For me, such as you studying, I’m not my feelings. These are an expertise I’m having. So even simply altering my internal language round them and with my youngsters now, we’re very cautious round utilizing the phrases, something comes after the phrases I’m, we select very rigorously as a result of we discuss that. Like once you say I’m unhappy, the message you’re giving to your physique is that the whole thing of you, your existence is unhappy. And that’s not a real assertion, however we are saying these issues with out actually considering of them.

And also you additionally actually touched on form of that concept that once we resist the feelings, they really construct like we resist them as a result of we don’t wish to really feel them. However that really form of offers them house to develop and maintain getting larger quite than simply addressing them and feeling them. I bear in mind one of many first individuals I labored with once I began this journey was, had a phrase and he mentioned, by no means waste a set off. And he talked about them being actually nice insights and instruments. And I discuss an analogous factor within the bodily well being world with signs, being messengers and being presents and the way they’re really nice communication from our physique, even when they’re not snug experiences. It’s our physique immediately speaking to us. The identical factor with triggers, that that’s really nice perception and an excellent alternative for therapeutic and studying. So I might love so that you can elaborate on that, how we are able to remodel our emotional triggers into a spot of emotional transformation.

Raj: I simply love that query. So for anyone listening who doesn’t know what an emotional set off is, consider an emotional set off as these moments the place you have got an emotional response to one thing outdoors of you that you just’re not essentially consciously doing. So in case your youngsters say one thing or do one thing or they’re coming into the room after which you have got a response or a response, that may be a set off. A set off could possibly be you’re watching the information and then you definitely get some degree of disappointment or concern that comes up. That’s a set off. You could be in a dialog together with your partner, and your partner doesn’t do the dishes for the fifteenth time in a row and also you get offended. That’s a set off. And these triggers are these alternatives. And once I take a look at triggers, we outline triggers as like this response from part of you that’s unconscious. And that unconscious set off is responding to one thing proper now.

Now, when you’ll be able to take a look at that set off as this tip of the iceberg, and also you say, okay, what if this set off has really nothing to do with the factor outdoors of me? And what if, that is only a what if, you may really say, all proper, as an alternative of this set off being brought on by one thing outdoors of me, shifting the language to my nervous system is responding to one thing outdoors of me on this method. Why is that? After we can shift the languaging and now start to ask that query of why and the place is that this set off coming from and what within me is definitely getting triggered, now you start the journey to truly shifting it for good. As a result of most individuals don’t notice that. And that is what I’ve realized over time. And it appears like you have got too, Katie, is simply that these triggers develop into treasures. Like beneath, just like the triggers are literally your nervous system attempting to sign to you, hey, there’s this factor that’s exhibiting up proper now and I would like it gone. I don’t wish to really feel triggered anymore. I wish to really feel calm and linked.

So are you able to really take a look at this from that lens of studying? And once we begin to take a look at it by means of the lens of studying, you’ll be able to open up a complete world of perception. And that perception is definitely the factor that results in the transformation. It’s like, okay, I’m entering into this set off with my partner as a result of he didn’t do the dishes for the fifteenth time in a row. However once I actually sit with it, what I’m actually triggered about is the truth that I don’t really feel very heard. I don’t really feel very understood. I don’t really feel very acknowledged. I don’t really feel appreciated. And that’s the factor beneath the factor beneath the factor. Now, when you have got that perception, the following step is to do one thing with it and to speak that. After which there’s a complete suite of instruments, proper, for nonviolent communication and title your wants and talk successfully with others. And we are able to discuss, there’s so many worlds. For this reason I’m like this, this physique of labor has so many alternative instructions we are able to go in. However that’s the journey of going from emotional set off to emotional transformation is the journey of asking with curiosity, the place is that this coming from?

Katie: And a lot of it does appear to start out there, just like the Walt Whitman quote of approaching it with curiosity, not judgment. I really feel like that may be a great first step as a result of it means that you can not make assumptions of what you suppose is occurring. And once you strategy it with curiosity, particularly I discover with feelings within the nervous system, once you ask good questions, often it’s very prepared to provide you good solutions. We simply typically should study the method of asking good questions. And such as you mentioned, there are, I feel, so many instruments now obtainable, which I’m so enthusiastic about, that may assist in so many alternative areas of this. And I feel generally that may really feel just a little overwhelming. I do know it did for me once I was attempting to determine what to attempt to what may work. And I attempted a complete lot of issues earlier than discovering those that gave the impression to be actually efficient for me. So do you have got any concepts or instruments or route for individuals in strategy that course of and discovering the instruments that could be only for them?

Raj: Yeah, so that is the premise of every little thing that we’ve been constructing at Liber8. This was the issue I bumped into. Once I first obtained began, there’s simply so many books and podcasts and sources and so many individuals which can be swearing by their software. Oh, that is the factor that labored for me. Everyone’s obtained to do it. That is the factor that labored for me. Everyone’s obtained to do it. I’d go discuss to my dad, my mother, my brother, my buddies, my colleagues. Everyone had a unique reply, and it was simply so complicated. And that’s mainly what our emotional lab reviews assist individuals.

To me, that is likely one of the only instruments that I may presumably suggest for someone to determine what sort of instruments, what kinds of sources, what kinds of books, podcasts, subsequent steps are going to be related to your particular emotional triggers and your particular objectives psychological panorama as a result of finally that’s actually what, primarily based in your nervous system, primarily based on the best way that you just understand menace, primarily based in your beliefs in regards to the world, primarily based on the best way you have been raised completely different instruments are going to give you the results you want. Like, you understand, if I went to someone who’s extraordinarily spiritual, proper? And I went to them, and I began speaking about all of this mystical stuff over right here that’s a sort of woo. It doesn’t matter. It’s simply not going to land, proper? But when we go to that very same particular person and produce one thing that’s in additional alignment with their perception system, one thing like prayer or one thing that’s extra in congruence, that software goes to be a lot extra worthwhile to them than anything. And so I feel with the ability to take the time, and that is what we’re actually, that’s what our emotional labs are. I’d be laborious pressed to seek out one other factor that does that as a result of to me, going by means of the method of really assessing what’s occurring once you’re experiencing an emotional set off goes to permit, by doing that course of, then we are able to discover the suitable instruments. So it is sort of a, I want I may simply say, hey, these instruments are greatest for everyone. Nevertheless it’s laborious to try this as a result of relying on every particular person, it’s simply going to be wildly completely different. And that’s why we constructed our emotional lab reviews.

Katie: And I like this as a result of it offers information. And within the bodily well being world, we are able to run labs and we are able to get information. We are able to have perception of what’s occurring within our our bodies. And I say fairly often on this podcast that we’re every our personal major healthcare supplier and that there are actually so many instruments obtainable that we are able to really take the possession of that with good information and make knowledgeable selections. I feel it’s additionally true in corollary that we’re every our personal healer and that nobody outdoors of us goes to be our healer. We now have to try this work internally. However now that there are instruments that may be very complimentary in that journey for ourselves, and we are able to have guides and helpers and individuals who maintain our hand. However on the finish of the day, we’re our personal healer.

I feel one other level of this that I skilled and also you may need as effectively or may encounter individuals experiencing is once you begin doing the work, it looks like it may be simple to then shift from the identification of trauma or no matter you’re coming from into the identification of therapeutic and doing the work quite than and the objective finally, in fact, really simply being healed and controlled and emotionally calm. And so, I feel a few of these instruments are useful as a result of they may also help body not getting caught within the identification of therapeutic both, however really staying on the journey of therapeutic to get to the purpose of being healed, which is, in fact, a lifelong journey as effectively. And also you’ve talked about nervous system well being fairly a bit. Are you able to converse extra as to if or not it’s habits, instruments, something that may be useful in curating good nervous system well being. Trigger I do know that is additionally very a lot a journey.

Raj: Yeah. And it’s, and I simply wish to actually title like this physique of nervous system well being is rising, proper? Like I can share the perfect that I do know in the present day, and in every week with new analysis and new research, like this might evolve, so I simply wish to title that. From what I do know for myself, regulating and caring for my nervous system is available in a couple of other ways. One is with really creating a apply to launch the sure vitality that’s coiled up and saved in our nervous system. So over time we have now antagonistic childhood experiences and traumas. We now have life stressors. We now have large T life stressors and little T like we have now little stressors, large stressors, every little thing simply accumulates in our nervous system, proper? So creating a apply of releasing that vitality constantly and having one thing you like to do is paramount. So it could possibly be breathwork. It could possibly be it could possibly be hypnosis. It could possibly be ecstatic dance and motion. It could possibly be no matter it could be, however getting right into a apply, a apply of constantly releasing vitality out of your system is likely one of the most, and I like to consider this as like unconscious rewiring in a number of methods, like actually like, as a result of by releasing the vitality out of your system, you’re really rewiring your nervous system to be extra resilient, like, as a result of it’s not carrying all that vitality. So, that’s step one.

The second step to me is constructing a wholesome relationship together with your feelings and your ideas. And so, to me, some of the efficient instruments to try this is that this physique work referred to as components work. And, you understand, components work is, it’s not essentially like a software. It’s extra like a one thing that you just study over time, like, okay, when you have got this offended half, studying to separate your self out of your anger by calling it an element. I’m not offended. It’s simply my offended half that’s out proper now. Or I’m not being judgy. It’s my judgy half proper now. I’m not being this. It’s my this half and studying to create that spaciousness between you and your half. And once you try this over time, you’re actually separating out these components of your nervous system which can be triggery, unconscious components of you that aren’t in alignment with this peaceable, loving, calm, linked, assured, inventive, compassionate half model of you that’s really who you’re. I actually consider that’s really who all of us are. Beneath all of our triggers, we’re really unimaginable, really, really, really unimaginable. So it’s constructing this behavior of going from figuring out with all of this, the triggery components to then figuring out with these calm, linked components. And that occurs by means of constant consciousness.

So some software for nervous system rewiring regulation, a software to, or components work and actually studying to separate your self out of your ideas and your feelings. After which we expect if there’s a deeper, one other software that I may in all probability suggest. After which actually monitoring to me, it’s like, you understand, emotional lab reviews are one solution to monitor, journals or one other solution to monitor, you understand, like I’m an avid journaler. And to me, actually, there’s a lot analysis on, you understand, the impression on well being and well-being because it pertains to love a constant journaling apply, like simply entering into the apply of constantly journaling your ideas and your emotions once you really feel them is a unbelievable solution to proceed releasing a few of that sure vitality from the system.

Now, as I mentioned, there’s, I can go so much deeper as soon as we all know extra about every particular person, however I, from a grand standpoint, like these are simply fundamentals that we discover to be actually vital in the case of caring for your nervous system, past all of the bodily stuff like sleep, you understand, there’s all that stuff as effectively. I’m not going to go too deep into these departments as a result of I’m certain there’s, you understand, you’ve had different specialists on the present to speak about that, however from an emotional facet, from the psychological facet, like these are the three, three instruments that I feel are nice.

Katie: Yeah, I do know so much shifted for me once I even simply grew to become conscious of the nervous system element as an vital piece of well being and began devoting intention and time to that. And I had a few of these comparable experiences the place I discovered issues that I had not thought of earlier than that have been actually useful in that. For me, issues like singing randomly, which once you take a look at the bodily well being facet, it’s nice for vagal nerve tone, for exciting the thyroid. But additionally, for me, there was the metaphor of discovering my voice and attending to course of by means of that. I really did yelling and tantrums as a result of I had suppressed feelings for therefore lengthy. And when the therapist first advised me to throw a mood tantrum and yell, I used to be like, ah, it wasn’t going to work. It really took time to discover ways to get in contact with these feelings.

Even issues like several sort of motion, like dancing is superior. Or once I would push towards a wall simply to have just like the bodily sensation of pushing towards one thing and getting to love repattern that in my physique. I feel these instruments are so underestimated due to their simplicity, however they’re obtainable to everybody. They usually actually could make an incredible distinction as a result of something we’re doing that indicators security to our our bodies can actually assist on this course of. And I feel if we simply can have that concept of what can I do to sign security to my nervous system as a element in our well being journey, that’s an enormous piece that’s typically extraordinarily profound within the outcomes that it offers. I’d like to additionally discuss briefly about biohacking for our psychology. If there are any like ideas or methods or instruments that may assist with emotional resilience, may also help with repatterning a few of these issues, perhaps something you encountered in your journey that was actually pivotal for you.

Raj: I feel, you understand, for me, biohacking, and what I simply wish to actually title, like, security. Security is once we really feel secure, we’re calm, linked, inventive, assured. Like, that pure a part of us comes up once we’re secure. So I like that you just introduced this again to security as a result of finally any software that means that you can hook up with security is a software that’s serving to you enhance your nervous system well being. Like, simply consider that as a broad stroke.

Now, biohacking your psychology, that is the place it comes all the way down to separating your self from this a part of you that’s triggered, restricted, sort of reactive to this a part of you that’s infinite. Proper? This a part of you that doesn’t get triggered in any respect. This a part of you that’s virtually, like, simply superhuman in some methods. And all of us have entry to this a part of us. Proper? And once I consider biohacking or bioharmonizing, no matter phrase we wish to use, it’s going from bringing consciousness to this facet of you and all of the ways in which it’s enjoying out. So to me, one of many quickest methods to establish all of the components of you which can be sitting on this restricted a part of you, or all of the components of you which can be sitting in triggers, which can be sitting on this, and actually, once more, not really who you’re like beneath all of those triggers, you’re really an incredible, sensible human being. In order that’s the elemental factor that simply must be linked with first with the intention to even discover biohacking.

However when you get that elementary piece down, now, the most important factor that labored for me was being attentive to my relationships. Relationships are the supply of all of our triggers. I’ll simply put it that method. Wish to me, like whether or not it’s relationships with my mother and father, relationships with my, with my accomplice, relationships with my, like, I don’t have youngsters, but when I had youngsters, like all of this, like the best way that we work together with {our relationships} is the most important and most profound breeding floor for figuring out the quickest methods to go from this anxious a part of you, this offended a part of you, this resentful a part of you, the shameful a part of you to this different facet, which is that this infinite a part of you. And I feel that body, and it’s attention-grabbing as a result of I want that there was extra like tangible, like, do that factor to get that factor. However finally, psychology shouldn’t be that method. That’s why it’s a tender science, proper? Like psychology is a tender science. So we herald as a lot, you understand, rigor as we are able to to tender science. However on the finish of the day, it’s not like this one particular factor. There’s a physique of understanding that by taking a look at your relationships as academics, you will discover the quickest pathway to releasing the components of you which can be really not you in any respect. And once you launch the components of you that aren’t you, you develop into probably the most genuine model of you. And that genuine model of you is brilliantly wonderful. And so, relationships are one of many greatest methods. Within relationships, my, I’m attempting to suppose if there’s some other instruments. I suppose I’ll pause there. If there’s something that’s come up for you in that, I’d like to go deeper. However yeah, for me, beginning with the relationships and beginning together with your emotional triggers, these two items are just like the quickest solution to biohack your psychology.

Katie: Effectively, I undoubtedly agree primarily based alone private expertise and from what I’ve heard from so many others as effectively. And I do know we’re going to do a complete follow-up podcast episode. You guys can maintain a watch out for regarding the child’s facet and the parenting as a result of typically on this podcast, in any side of well being dialog, there’s a recurring theme of, I want I had recognized this once I was youthful. How can I assist my youngsters have a more healthy framework for this from an early age? We’re going to get to go deep on that as a result of additionally I feel kids might be our greatest academics and likewise generally our greatest triggers and that the perfect reward we can provide them is our personal nervous system and emotional regulation, however that’s fairly the method and fairly the ask. So we’re going to get to go deep on that, however you talked about Liber8. Are you able to briefly clarify what it’s and the instruments that you’ve obtainable? And I’ll in fact, be sure that it’s linked as effectively so individuals can discover it and begin partaking there.

Raj: Yeah, so at Liber8, our form of flagship product is an emotional lab report. And what that features is so that you go on our web site, you’ll be able to enroll. Once you enroll, you get entry to our app, and we begin to monitor your emotional triggers, or we train you the way to concentrate to your triggers. Now, as you monitor your triggers, we then take you thru a 90-minute one-on-one session with somebody on our crew that can assist you perceive and unpack the foundation causes of these triggers. The place are they coming from? The place in your childhood perhaps did this sort of sample in your life start? We begin to information you thru a extremely easy strategy of figuring out all that data.

As soon as we get all that data, we then generate an emotional lab report that features books, podcasts, sources, and particular instruments for nervous system rewiring regulation which can be all primarily based in your assessments. In order we monitor the information, as we see your triggers, we discover the perfect instruments which can be for you. And you’ve got mainly now just a little toolkit that you could carry with you all through your day, all through your weeks, all through your months to proceed working in your nervous system well being and to proceed getting the assist that you just want. And we have now so many sources, every little thing. We now have a complete free neighborhood that you could go and get entry to content material and curriculums and one-on-one assist. However finally, it’s a useful resource for individuals who have actually not gone down this path to seek out the suitable instruments for them, in order that they will get efficient, lasting outcomes and to trace that journey. As a result of in psychological and emotional well-being, there’s simply no monitoring. I by no means had a solution to know if I used to be really getting higher or not. I simply was going to software after software after software after software after software. Effectively, the emotional lab reviews can form of provide help to quantify, okay, that is the place I’m beginning. That is baseline. Ninety days later, the place am I? Am I getting higher? Am I nonetheless getting triggered by the identical stuff? These patterns nonetheless exhibiting up. We are able to maintain ourselves accountable. That’s finally what Liber8 supplies. So we have now these emotional lab reviews after which we have now applications for those who wish to go deeper. However yeah, that’s the large factor.

Katie: Effectively, like I mentioned, I’ll make it possible for’s linked, however I like this as a result of I really feel prefer it’s basically the practical medication strategy to psychological and emotional well-being as a result of we’ve seen this pattern, particularly within the well being world and lots of people I discuss to and work with of transferring towards a extra root trigger practical medication strategy. And I really feel like that is serving to try this in that psychological emotional panorama, which I’ve seen in my very own life be probably the most pivotal key in even shifting my bodily well being. So I feel this dialog is so vital. And I’m reminded of that quote that till we make the unconscious aware, it is going to rule our life and we are going to name it destiny. And I like that this can be a quantified solution to really begin getting some perception as a result of when you’re in that emotional panorama, and particularly from my start line, once I was in a spot of being very triggered, but additionally being very emotionally shut down, it’s laborious to even attempt to get an goal take a look at what’s occurring. And so, I really feel like instruments like this may be useful as a result of they offer us an information level and a monitoring after which a objective, and we are able to transfer hopefully in the suitable route and alter if we’re not. So I’m so grateful for the work that you just’re doing. And like I mentioned, we’ll get to do a follow-up dialog on so what will we do in the case of youngsters with this as effectively. However thanks a lot on your time and your knowledge and for sharing in the present day.

Raj: Yeah, thanks a lot, Katie. It’s been nice spending a while with you in the present day.

Katie: And thanks for listening. And I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on subsequent episode of the Wellness Mama Podcast.

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